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The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby Subjectivist » Fri 29 Aug 2014, 19:56:22

http://youtu.be/fHbJMmm2rOU

Dr. Alan Goldheimer gives a 45 min talk on why we instinctively choose the foods we choose. I don't agree with his Vegan lifestyle choice, but he is an engaging and entertaining speaker and he makes sound arguments about the instinct behind our food choices.
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Sat 30 Aug 2014, 05:46:31

I agree with your opinion about this presentation. But understanding my addictions to refined sugars and baked goods does not help me end them. Croissants remain the best-tasting thing in the universe, with a good chocolate cake not far behind.
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby Subjectivist » Sat 30 Aug 2014, 09:14:19

KaiserJeep wrote:I agree with your opinion about this presentation. But understanding my addictions to refined sugars and baked goods does not help me end them. Croissants remain the best-tasting thing in the universe, with a good chocolate cake not far behind.


Clearly you are a guy, my wife laughed out loud over the chocolate section, and she rarely laughs.
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 29 Oct 2016, 11:50:48

Wheat does terrible things to me, but I still love the taste and texture of whole wheat baked goods.
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby sparky » Sat 29 Oct 2016, 15:09:40

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Long ago I concluded that life was not worth living without fat , sugar and salt.
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby Ibon » Sat 29 Oct 2016, 19:57:05

sparky wrote:.
Long ago I concluded that life was not worth living without fat , sugar and salt.



Last time I went to the US after 5 months here in remote Panama eating healthy and local I indulged in a pleasure trap and ate a pint of Haagen Dasz ice cream and got sicker than a dog. I had been having some abdominal issues and went to an urgent care facility and was diagnosed with gall stones. I am back in Panama now and will have my gall bladder removed next month. The symptoms were long in coming but that ice cream indulgence, a big wad of fat , just put me over the edge. That was almost 2 months ago and I have been forced to maintain a low fat diet since. My symptoms come and go but I do feel better actually eating less fat.

Those taste buds evolved to desire that which was energy rich and relatively rare in our environment; fat and sugar. We are pretty hopelessly predisposed to over indulging in them.
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby sparky » Sun 30 Oct 2016, 09:08:31

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Ohh yes , the humans , like most mammals are programmed to overindulge during the fleeting good times ,
pilling fat like happy hamsters for the much more frequent bad times .
the pattern is the brief plenty of late summer , followed by the starvation of late winter
those who couldn't get some fat around October would be dead by March
now we can overeat all year round , which is definitely not the case in nature
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby Subjectivist » Sun 30 Oct 2016, 12:01:57

Ibon wrote:
sparky wrote:.
Long ago I concluded that life was not worth living without fat , sugar and salt.



Last time I went to the US after 5 months here in remote Panama eating healthy and local I indulged in a pleasure trap and ate a pint of Haagen Dasz ice cream and got sicker than a dog. I had been having some abdominal issues and went to an urgent care facility and was diagnosed with gall stones. I am back in Panama now and will have my gall bladder removed next month. The symptoms were long in coming but that ice cream indulgence, a big wad of fat , just put me over the edge. That was almost 2 months ago and I have been forced to maintain a low fat diet since. My symptoms come and go but I do feel better actually eating less fat.

Those taste buds evolved to desire that which was energy rich and relatively rare in our environment; fat and sugar. We are pretty hopelessly predisposed to over indulging in them.


Ibn, gallstones are caused by fat restricted diets that don't stimulate the gall bladder to contract after a meal. Read this information to see I am not making it up, the research is clear.
https://proteinpower.com/drmike/2005/08 ... allstones/
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby Newfie » Sun 30 Oct 2016, 18:42:50

sparky wrote:.
Long ago I concluded that life was not worth living without fat , sugar and salt.


No, BACON! Now that's the essence of life. Must be genetic, it's the one thing my daughter and I agree upon.

(Or maybe bacon is just distilled fat, sugar and salt?)
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby Ibon » Mon 31 Oct 2016, 07:23:13

Subjectivist wrote:
Ibn, gallstones are caused by fat restricted diets that don't stimulate the gall bladder to contract after a meal. Read this information to see I am not making it up, the research is clear.
https://proteinpower.com/drmike/2005/08 ... allstones/


Thanks. Interesting and makes sense. I have not been on a low fat diet previously. I have a pretty typical diet and am not over weight. I assume my gallstones are age related. Once you do get gallstones eating a fatty meal will bring on a painful episode because the gall bladder goes into action and the stones is what irritates and causes pain. My surgery is scheduled for Nov 14th here in Panama.
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Re: The Pleasure Trap

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 31 Oct 2016, 19:33:57

Please let us know how it goes and your impression of the Panamanian health system.
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