pstarr wrote:I don't like the jerks getting free reign and stealing play time. They drive good ideas off the page. I never block anyone. It's like running away.
They apparently have never driven any of your ideas off the page.
pstarr wrote:I don't like the jerks getting free reign and stealing play time. They drive good ideas off the page. I never block anyone. It's like running away.
I wonder.... does Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan/Chase) give a rat's poop about this issue? How about Lloyd Blankenfein, head of Goldman Sux? Rex Tillerson, perhaps? You know, the CEO of Exxon Mobil? Has he weighed in on this issue? How about Hugh Grant, the alien life form that heads Monsanto? C. Douglas Mcmillon (Walmarts) maybe?
No? They don't give a damn? Why not? Because none of these stupid collateral issues affect what they are up to one iota on the bottom line. And what they are up to is impoverishing and disenfranchising the rest of us while they pillage, plunder and destroy the planet. They are perfectly happy to see you fuss about fetus flushing rights, trans-gendered reversed marriages, the right to own penis extensions, teenage alcoholism, black sensibilities, and the whole gaggle of hot-button, personal-obsessive issues that LARD the media and public consciousness. The more you fuss over these things, the less you will focus on what really matters and what really needs to get done.
In printing this garbage, the Guardian for all its quoth "progressivity" actually serves the useful function of preserving the status quo.
At a February meeting, the progressive city council of Charlottesville, Virginia, voted to tear down two monuments erected almost 100 years ago to Confederate Generals Lee and Jackson and to erase all vestiges of the town’s Confederate heritage. Now, after lawsuits were filed to stop it, the city is looking to sell the statues off to the highest bidder.
After a series of contentious city town hall meetings where supporters of the region’s heritage and those wishing to whitewash history battled over the council’s decision, city officials decided not to back down from the initial decision to eliminate its historical parks.
The decision to remove the two statues and redesign Lee Park to eliminate General Robert E. Lee’s name was calculated at $300,000, according to the city. Likely the costs would be far higher.
By March, several organizations and 11 local citizens joined together to file a lawsuit against the city to stop the removal of the statues, according to The Cavalier Daily of the University of Virginia.
The plaintiffs, including the Virginia Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, Inc. and the Monument Fund, Inc., cited a list of reasons for filing the lawsuit. Chief among those reasons is their contention that the city is in violation of a state law preventing alteration of such monuments.
According to state law, it is illegal for local officials to tear down memorials to war veterans.
But now the city thinks it has a solution to its breach of state law. If the city can sell the statues to some other city or park that will maintain the historical integrity of the statues, officials think that might satisfy state law, according to Newsplex.
Still, the local activists who want to eliminate all history they do not like find the move unsatisfactory.
“I believe this is one time when justice triumphs historic preservation,” Councilor Kristin Szakos said. “Just like I would agree to tear down a historic home that is a danger to a neighborhood, I believe we should now allow for the removal of a statue whose message is offensive and negative to a principle our community holds dear.”
Subjectivist wrote:“I believe this is one time when justice triumphs historic preservation,” Councilor Kristin Szakos said. “Just like I would agree to tear down a historic home that is a danger to a neighborhood, I believe we should now allow for the removal of a statue whose message is offensive and negative to a principle our community holds dear.”
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
pstarr wrote:Had it occurred to you that perhaps, even racists, or simple right-wingers would prefer not to be reminded of their own racist pasts.
pstarr wrote:-snip-
Had it occurred to you that perhaps, even racists, or simple right-wingers would prefer not to be reminded of their own racist pasts. Not all racists are idiots.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
vtsnowedin wrote:A lot of people seeing Trump decline in the polls will not risk demonstrating now with Covid as they prefer to just wait him out. This pulling statues down is getting out of hand with statues of Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt being targeted. The vandals are not students of history. If they were they would know that TR got into political trouble for having Booker T. Washington (a black man) come to a White house dinner in 1901. The uproar kept that from happening again for thirty years.
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