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Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby Cog » Thu 30 Jul 2015, 07:01:01

They are trying to stop a Shell Oil icebreaker from leaving the bay where it was laid up for repairs. Hmm protestors in kayaks below made from petroleum and hanging from ropes made from petroleum, protesting a company that explores for petroleum. They should be using hemp rope but I have no doubt there is plenty of hemp and Patchouli in evidence at this affair.

I can think of many numerous humorous things that could be done with the protestors.

1) Give a boy scout troop a bunch of knives and tell them NOT to cut the ropes
2) Ramming speed
3) Start swinging one of the protestors at the end and create a human clackety-clack .
4) Skeet season on the bay

By the way, creating a hazard to navigation and failing to yield right of passage at sea can lead to severe financial penalties and jail time. Hopefully that will happen here.

More at story link

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/act ... ng-n400306

At least a dozen climbers with Greenpeace were dangling from a Portland, Oregon, bridge on Wednesday morning — and threatened to do so for days — in protest of Shell's scheduled launch of a ship for Arctic oil exploration.

"The climbers have enough supplies to last several days, and are prepared to stay in Shell's way as long as possible," the environmental organization said in a blog post.

The stunt on the St. Johns Bridge comes after protesters gathered in a Portland park Tuesday evening, and planned to drop kayaks in the water in a bid to stop the Royal Dutch Shell from leaving port. The ship was scheduled Wednesday to depart for Alaskan waters.
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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby hvacman » Thu 30 Jul 2015, 18:56:31

Standard sophomoric in-your-face eco-stunt.

We had "cat woman" issues back in 2002 at a brand new fiberglass plant here in Redding. Fiberglass manufacturing is about the cleanest industry around. Our area is woefully-short on actual manufacturing type jobs since the local timber industry took a dump in the early 1990's (and was far more environmentally-impactful) , but that wasn't good enough. Cat Woman wanted to "save lives" from killer Knauf. Image over substance - that's what it is about.

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2002/02/11/1159341.php

Post script - 2015. Knauf Fiberglass, in business locally for 13 years, isn't even an a blip on the environmental radar anymore. Not sure that one person has lost their life because of Knauf's non-emission emissions. More likely that several locals who have been Knauf employees are alive now only because of their employer's great health care benefits that detected and treated the cancer or heart disease or whatever that would have killed them in a poorer economy....
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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 30 Jul 2015, 19:59:02

A judge just said Greenpeace must allow the ship to leave Portland, or pay fines or $2500-$10,000 per hour for each hour of delay.

Police have also started arresting demonstrators on the bridge.

It will be interesting to see if Greenpeace backs down tomorrow, or if they will block the ship again and risk fines and more arrests

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NPR interviewed one of the Greenpeace demonstrators. The interviewer asked if she was a hypocrite for using gasoline and then protesting against it, and she said she had a perfect right to personally use all the gasoline she wanted, and that it was all the oil companies fault for providing her with gasoline and making her use it. She said she'd much rather use some imaginary eco-fuel that isn't invented yet.....and she also blamed the oil companies for not inventing her fantasy of a perfect magic eco-fuel yet!

Hahahahahahahahahahah!
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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Thu 30 Jul 2015, 20:59:53

Most of these morons believe combustion engines in general can actually run on water as fuel, they really are that gullible/ ignorant.
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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 31 Jul 2015, 01:20:28

Cog wrote:They are trying to stop a Shell Oil icebreaker from leaving the bay where it was laid up for repairs. Hmm protestors in kayaks below made from petroleum and hanging from ropes made from petroleum, protesting a company that explores for petroleum.
Also they are eating food fertilized, cultivated, harvested and shipped using petroleum and wearing clothes produced similarly.

By your bacteria-in-a-Petri-dish logic, nobody should be allowed to protest unless they are totally organic.

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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 31 Jul 2015, 01:32:07

I would support these guys if they could really carry an argument, which considering the cherry picking it's no surprise they can't. Why are they not tree sitting in SE Asia or Brazil for instance? Anything to do with the chance of disappearing into the jungle perhaps? Meanwhile get some cool headline grabbing piccies

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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby Cog » Fri 31 Jul 2015, 03:03:02

Keith_McClary wrote:
Cog wrote:They are trying to stop a Shell Oil icebreaker from leaving the bay where it was laid up for repairs. Hmm protestors in kayaks below made from petroleum and hanging from ropes made from petroleum, protesting a company that explores for petroleum.
Also they are eating food fertilized, cultivated, harvested and shipped using petroleum and wearing clothes produced similarly.

By your bacteria-in-a-Petri-dish logic, nobody should be allowed to protest unless they are totally organic.

(How do you know what the ropes are made of?)


Because no one uses natural fiber ropes for climbing or rappelling unless they have a death wish. There are plenty of pics of the people hanging from those colored ropes.

The protestor's right to protest does not extend to them the protection of violating other laws like trespassing and creating a navigation hazard. They can protest all they want, just not where they are currently doing so.
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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby hvacman » Fri 31 Jul 2015, 12:35:14

Though I, too believe Arctic off-shore oil exploration is a sure sign of oil-supply desperation and the risk/reward isn't worth it, it seems to me the protesters needed to be hanging in front of their US Congressmans' doors. This isn't like illegal fishing or whaling in violation of international treaties in international waters. Shell is operating under a recently-revised federal permit from the Federal BOEM to continue Arctic exploration in US government-controlled waters. Take the beef to Congress and the President (who is chief executive over all the various bureaus).

http://www.boem.gov/shell-chukchi/

It is now a moot point. The ice breaker made it under the bridge last night and is out in the open Pacific Ocean by now. The St. Johns Bridge and Portland can return to their normal, everyday Portlandia-ish insanity.
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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby Pops » Fri 31 Jul 2015, 15:00:31

Pstarr, I've just discovered Rachel, she cracks me up!

I applaud people who aren't so involved in checking their work email and trying to get ahead they have time to protest. The more they are hanging off bridges the less they are earning and consuming!

Still, they'd do more good hanging in front of their own garage doors, or maybe freeway overpasses at commute time. The problem ain't the pusher, it is the addiction.
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Re: Hippies dangling by ropes in St Johns

Unread postby C8 » Fri 31 Jul 2015, 15:11:42

These same Greenpeace people enthusiastically campaigned for Obama who pursued an "all of the above" energy strategy that has greatly increased world CO2 emissions. They are being very hypocritical and selectively "political" in their targets. It really comes off as a fundraising stunt for Greenpeace donors- I can see the emails being sent out now (and they are NOT risking their lives- I have done this before).

What IS heroic is for a scientist to commit his life to finding solutions to CO2 overdose and GW- that's who should be getting attention (and funding)
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