[C8]

I have noticed a real pattern among leftest protesters in every nation- they usually destroy things and act like criminals. The latest comes from Germany this weekend where leftest protesters wore clothing to cover their identities while they destroyed more property







http://note.taable.com/post/3D/feeds.ny ... tory01.htm

This destruction by leftest seems to happen wherever they go- Seattle in the late 90's, leftest protesters who wore face masks and attacked cops in NY over Garner, Greece recently, France, Germany. What is it about the left that likes to destroy things and hide their identities? Does left wing politics attract violent people? Does the "good cause" of Socialism or Marxism give protesters a self-justification for damaging stuff and hurting people?

I truly believe that ends do not justify means but reveal the true soul of individuals. The Left seems like a scary group of people to be in charge of anything.

[ralfy]

Likely actions have to do with citizens' helplessness towards policies by powerful businesses, financiers, and government backers.

[Apneaman]

Because those Right wing zealots are just so warm N fuzzy. They burn people instead of cars. OK they burn cars too. Get use to it.


How Neo-Nazi Thugs Supported by Kiev Regime Killed Odessa Inhabitants. Photographic Evidence


http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-neo-na ... ce/5380504

[PrestonSturges]

...... and groups like that often include a couple cops, because a little property damage then allows wholesale crackdowns. And this is pretty much only done to leftist groups, going back at least to the 1950's. The cops are the ones with money for pizza and beer. It's a popular assignment, because officers are allowed to get high and get laid.

[Outcast_Searcher]

...... and groups like that often include a couple cops, because a little property damage then allows wholesale crackdowns. And this is pretty much only done to leftist groups, going back at least to the 1950's. The cops are the ones with money for pizza and beer. It's a popular assignment, because officers are allowed to get high and get laid.

Says the leftist (who claims he's not a leftist). Because he has no real response.

If you believe in something for nothing with OTHER people's money, justified by always blaming the entities which pay the most taxes, well why NOT destroy other peoples' property on a whim? It's not like the far left believes in property rights.

But of course, whatever you do, blame the cops. As though the speeding ticket I got the other day was the fault of the police officer who caught me speeding. (My criminal career consists of getting one speeding ticket per decade -- just like clockwork. (And I treat the cop with respect and freely admit I'm guilty, and cheerfully pay the ticket. I suppose I belong in leftist prison).

[PrestonSturges]

Go over to any conservative blog and you can enjoy the endless circlejerk of wingnuts fantasizing about an apocalyptic national bloodbath. They all agree it's coming and it's justified because they are the true source of love and brotherhood, and their love is what makes their plans of national slaughter ok with Jesus, because love. They claim they are being forced into a civil war, and they promise that they will show no mercy. Find a site that doesn't have that crap, and get back to us, because I bet you can't find one.

[Hawkcreek]

This is just another example of conservative crapola. None of whom wants to talk about the amount of death and destruction initiated by conservatives who only want to "bring democracy" to other poor countries who just happen to have resources that our corporate citizens want.
I am starting to believe the studies that show that people who self identify as conservative are usually lower in IQ than people who self identify as liberal.
I know, those studies were probably done by pinko, college educated, liberals.

[PrestonSturges]

Well supposedly everyone here is more or less convinced the human race is doomed as a species because corporations control the economy, courts, politicians, press, and economists, just like Ned Beatty explained in network, there are no countries any more. And folks get mad as hell and they're not going to take it any more, then they see that rioters burned a beauty salon or broke a window at Starbucks, and the only thing they can think about is gunning down some fellow citizens.

[Outcast_Searcher]

This is just another example of conservative crapola. None of whom wants to talk about the amount of death and destruction initiated by conservatives who only want to "bring democracy" to other poor countries who just happen to have resources that our corporate citizens want.
I am starting to believe the studies that show that people who self identify as conservative are usually lower in IQ than people who self identify as liberal.
I know, those studies were probably done by pinko, college educated, liberals.

Yes, because it's so much easier to assume that people who believe in property rights are stupid, than to try to justify something for nothing via failed Marxist wishful thinking.

By the way, as I've pointed out MANY times before (feel free to check my prior posts), I lean right on economic policies (via property rights) and left on most social policies. If you want to assume I'm a "conservative", I'm pretty sure the far right crowd won't like that I (citing a few examples off the top of my head):

1). Am for gay marriage, cross-dressing, and pretty much every kind of personal freedom that doesn't actually generally actively HURT other people. In other words, tolerance. (Perhaps you should look up the word "irony" at this point).
2). Am for a woman's right to choose her reproductive decisions, period.
3). Believe in AGW. Also, personally try to minimize my carbon footprint, and think that we should heavily tax fossil fuel burning to greatly incentivize energy conservation and green energy alternatives and research.
4). Am against science denial for all issues including things like climate change and evolution and anything to do with fetuses.
5). Am solidly for COMPLETE separation of church and state.

So if you insist that this kind of stuff makes me have a low IQ, what does that say about left wing social values in general?

The true irony here is that claiming people who don't think like you are stupid is EXACTLY the kind of behavior one would expect from the extremes of right wing entities like FOX news. (Or its mirror image on the left, MSNBC, so never mind on that point).

But pardon me. I need to go drool on myself awhile for daring to believe in property rights...

[Hawkcreek]

When a post attack Leftists as a class ---"I have noticed a real pattern among leftest protesters in every nation- they usually destroy things and act like criminals. " --- you leave yourself open to an assumption that you consider yourself a conservative. If you identify yourself more as a "Leftest", why would you be attacking yourself?
I freely identify myself as a liberal. Always have, probably always will.
I believe that people are more important than property.
I never said anything about your IQ. I was referring to studies I have read that generalize in a statistical manner.
I will assume nothing about your IQ, unless you insist upon including yourself in a particular statistical group.

[Apneaman]

Outcast_Searcher did you ever actually read Marx? The big take away is that Capitalism would Cannibalize itself. Seems bang on to me. Personally speaking I despise all political and religious apes who think there is one system for every problem. The more complex global civilization has become the more the true believers insist that their system has all the solutions even when everything is unraveling. What a coincidence that almost everyone of them from Baghdad to Boston is born into the family that just happens to practice the right religion or political affiliation. Mindless ape coalitions who are going to tear eachother apart in the name of their prefabricated belief systems.

[Hawkcreek]

Outcast_Searcher did you ever actually read Marx? The big take away is that Capitalism would Cannibalize itself. Seems bang on to me. Personally speaking I despise all political and religious apes who think there is one system for every problem. The more complex global civilization has become the more the true believers insist that their system has all the solutions even when everything is unraveling. What a coincidence that almost everyone of them from Baghdad to Boston is born into the family that just happens to practice the right religion or political affiliation. Mindless ape coalitions who are going to tear eachother apart in the name of their prefabricated belief systems.

I do believe that our version of Capitalism is a system just waiting to die. It seems to me that anyone who has ever played Monopoly would understand that a un-restrained capitalistic society will end up with only one winner. That is not a good solution for anyone, including the winner - in the long run.

[Keith_McClary]

So these Maidan folks are "leftests" ?

[PrestonSturges]

MEISSEN, Germany — In a gesture of German goodwill, the administration in this medieval city leased a newly renovated apartment building here to humanely — even comfortably — house dozens of desperate ­asylum-seekers. The newcomers from Syria and other war-ravaged nations would enjoy freshly redone floors, cute balconies and shiny, modern appliances in a cheerful building near a timber-framed pub.

Then Meissen’s goodwill went up in smoke.

On a cool night six weeks ago, suspected right-wing arsonists struck the building, scorching its interior and rendering it uninhabitable days before the ­asylum-seekers were to move in. The attack added Meissen, a gothic castle town of 30,000 on the Elbe River, to a string of German cities caught up in an escalating rash of violence against refugees.

[SILENTTODD]

Yea just like the Right Wing and Death Squads-They Go Together : As has been repeatedly shown in El Salvadore, Guatemala, Chile, Nicaragua under Somoza, Indonesia's massacre of its leftists in 1965.

Why waste time destroying other people's property when can just waste them.

[Simon_R]

Could we not agree that there is a correlation between strength of belief (in anything) and willingness to use force to protect/enforce that belief

[ROCKMAN]

Simon - That's the easy part: someone running into a burning building to save a child obviously has strong beleifs about sacrificing oneself for another. OTOH Hitler's belief in eliminating Jews was rather strong also. When was the last time you saw someone not offer a justification for what they did...good or bad?

[davep]

Agreed. Strength of belief is fine. It's only when you try imposing that belief on others by force that it starts getting complicated.

[onlooker]

Guys this is just what the powers that be want, us fighting with each other and arguing with each other. The liberal/conservative dichotomy is long past any usefulness. The people up high in their white towers are just smirking watching us. I am talking about bankers, royalty, career politicians, tyrants, CEO's, business tycoons etc. They stir up passions via unjust and unequal policies, they obfuscate the issues via the media, they put out canards and other false propaganda and myths, they keep us sedated with drugs, TV, video games, gossip, sports, human interest stories etc. Course in the meantime the Titanic is sinking and I guess we will drown fighting with each other just like the elites planned it.

[onlooker]

Could we not agree that there is a correlation between strength of belief (in anything) and willingness to use force to protect/enforce that belief

What about Simon the conviction of non-violence, one can believe in that with all one's heart and soul, you think then those same believers are going to use force to enforce it? I do not think so.