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Carly Fiorina: and various constitutional discussions

Unread postby MD » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 15:20:17

As things stand at this moment, I am almost ready to support her candidacy.

Sanders comes in a close second.

Yeah, I know. Opposite positions at so many levels.

Carly has the leadership skills, Sanders has the ideology.

Do we need ideologues, or do we need strong leaders?
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 15:38:34

MD wrote:As things stand at this moment, I am almost ready to support her candidacy.

Sanders comes in a close second.

Yeah, I know. Opposite positions at so many levels.

Carly has the leadership skills, Sanders has the ideology.

Do we need ideologues, or do we need strong leaders?


What you need to do, as well as any politician. is to follow the US Constitution. It is that simple. Once you have the Constitution in mind, that makes picking a political candidate a lot easier.
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 15:43:58

pstarr wrote:Well yeah that's right Coggie. Follow the constitution around like a happy puppie boy :)


You do recognize the US Constitution as the supreme law of the land don't you? Every person in the military, judge, elected official, police officer, and fireman swears an oath to protect and defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 15:49:25

I do not recall bringing up gays. Do you think I have a problem with them?
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 15:54:14

Actually the Constitution was written in the common language of the day exactly so the average person could understand it without a legal degree. We have allowed the legal profession to obfuscate the plain language on multiple occasions but if you have a 6th grade command of the written English language the text is understandable without a tome of leagalize to explain it.
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 15:57:17

MD wrote:As things stand at this moment, I am almost ready to support her candidacy.

Sanders comes in a close second.

Yeah, I know. Opposite positions at so many levels.

Carly has the leadership skills, Sanders has the ideology.

Do we need ideologues, or do we need strong leaders?


No matter what your ideology without leadership skill it is a moot point. What we need now is actual leadership, because as we fall off the plateau a lot of hard choices will have to be made and decisive actions taken. I have little to no confidence in most of the candidates to display decisive behavior when the crunch comes.
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 15:58:17

Hardly a democrap. I leave people alone and I expect my government to return the favor. But of course that won't work for you will it?
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 15:59:25

Tanada wrote:
MD wrote:As things stand at this moment, I am almost ready to support her candidacy.

Sanders comes in a close second.

Yeah, I know. Opposite positions at so many levels.

Carly has the leadership skills, Sanders has the ideology.

Do we need ideologues, or do we need strong leaders?


No matter what your ideology without leadership skill it is a moot point. What we need now is actual leadership, because as we fall off the plateau a lot of hard choices will have to be made and decisive actions taken. I have little to no confidence in most of the candidates to display decisive behavior when the crunch comes.


So you want a dictator who has no regard for the US Constitution? That sounds just great.
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 16:07:38

Look pstarr, if you want to drop trousers for another dude, you won't find me stopping you.
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 16:09:14

pstarr wrote:... go back to the founders. Who had slaves lol


Not all the founders had slaves. The slave-owners were the ones who became the Democrats :lol:

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As far as Carly Fiorina goes, IMHO she might be a potential VP pick.

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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 16:12:00

Cog wrote:
Tanada wrote:
MD wrote:As things stand at this moment, I am almost ready to support her candidacy.

Sanders comes in a close second.

Yeah, I know. Opposite positions at so many levels.

Carly has the leadership skills, Sanders has the ideology.

Do we need ideologues, or do we need strong leaders?


No matter what your ideology without leadership skill it is a moot point. What we need now is actual leadership, because as we fall off the plateau a lot of hard choices will have to be made and decisive actions taken. I have little to no confidence in most of the candidates to display decisive behavior when the crunch comes.


So you want a dictator who has no regard for the US Constitution? That sounds just great.


I hate to have to be the one to break it to you Cog, but we have not followed the actual Constitution for about a hundred years, and as much as I hate that nothing I can do will change it.

Progressives hate the Constitution and have spent the last century deconstructing it bit by bit whenever and wherever they could get away with it. The US Congress no longer even says Boo when the President decides to do something unconstitutional, they just collect their cut and posture for the camera's.

We live in the Authoritarian Age, the time of Constitutional restraint has passed. I didn't expect to get here so soon, but we have because it did. This is not exactly a new thought for me, I wrote about it on here at least as far back as 2008. I don't like what my country has become, but I accept it is reality.
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 16:15:24

Which is exactly why we have the Second Amendment right to bear arms.
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Re: Carly Fiorina

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2015, 16:18:50

pstarr wrote:
Cog wrote:Which is exactly why we have the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

Your AR will be pretty nasty up against a Predator Drone/Hellfire Missile combo lol


Really? LOL You don't understand how things work militarily. The weakness is not in the weapon's system, its in the people who fire it and the method by which it goes to a location.
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