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The lie we live

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 19 Sep 2015, 21:05:32

Very good short video that serves as a summary to the great dysfunctionality of the world we live in now. Nothing particularly new here but serves as a primer to anyone who wishes to know our current situation as a species. Here is link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=81&v=ipe6CMvW0Dg
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby jedrider » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 00:06:56

Nice video. The Blue Pill please, now.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 01:18:41

Nice time-lapse imagery and photography, but the voice over commentary is trite and dull. I turned it off when the narrator started whining that he was totally controlled by money and so couldn't think independently and had no free will.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Hawkcreek » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 01:30:14

Good video. Nice to see young people with an awareness of the world we live in.
Will it create change? Probably not, but no reason to not keep trying.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Apneaman » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 01:36:17

Plantagenet wrote:.... so couldn't think independently and had no free will.



ROLFLMAO


Next time you're on one of those long distance flights planty spend the time reading up on the scientific literature on free will and then take a look around.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby onlooker » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 04:44:19

Yes, the world we live in has been manufactured for us so we will be exactly who we are, consumers and workers. It is not mere coincidence. Our sources of information keep us blind to the nature of the world and our illusion of freedom makes us complacent about trying to understand our situation. The creators of our reality and have an admirable job and now that the inevitable course of events are leading us all to catastrophe, they want to control us even more by eavesdropping on us and tightening the noose of security and force around us. So at least some of us recognize the Matrix we live in.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 12:05:17

Apneaman wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:.... free will.

...free will .


You are welcome to believe that you and everyone else have been brainwashed and that you and everyone else are manipulated and controlled by TPTB and as a consequence of "the lie we live" you and everyone else have no free will.

Personally, I don't share your belief.

For instance, just yesterday I decided, using my free will, to go hiking with some friends at the Gulkana Glacier. I fail to see any influence of TPTB on my decision to go hiking on a glacier. IMHO I chose to go to hiking because I like to hike.

CHEERS!

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Is going hiking on a glacier or taking a spin on a motorcycle or going to the beach or doing anything else people enjoy part of the "lie we live?" IMHO No---hiking on a glacier and other fun personal experiences are very real personal experiences and people decide using their free will make choices to do these various recreational things purely because they are enjoyable and rewarding and beautiful and delightful.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Cog » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 12:54:21

I sighted in my AR yesterday and no one made me do it.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby davep » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 13:05:41

Cog wrote:I sighted in my AR yesterday and no one made me do it.


I did the same with my .22LR (my favourite arm for improving accuracy).

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I don't think anyone made me do it. But that's probably what they want me to think.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Hawkcreek » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 18:19:06

Plantagenet wrote:
Apneaman wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:.... free will.

...free will .


For instance, just yesterday I decided, using my free will, to go hiking with some friends at the Gulkana Glacier. I fail to see any influence of TPTB on my decision to go hiking on a glacier. IMHO I chose to go to hiking because I like to hike.

I spent a lot of time in that area when I worked at PS-9. Always wanted to hike part of it.
Has some beautiful scenery. My camera and I are both jealous.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 18:24:56

pstarr wrote:Plant, just wait until Obama steals your healthcare and insurance.


You don't get it Peter.

Obama is going to give everybody free healthcare. :)
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 20 Sep 2015, 18:30:50

Hawkcreek wrote:I spent a lot of time in that area when I worked at PS-9. Always wanted to hike part of it.
Has some beautiful scenery. My camera and I are both jealous.


Wow! You worked at PS-9? I didn't know that.

Another great glacier hike in that area is the Castner Glacier, which is even closer to PS-9. The Alaska Alpine Club has a hut high up above the glacier that you can stay in for a few days while doing climbs and hikes way up the glacier.

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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Hawkcreek » Mon 21 Sep 2015, 02:09:45

[quote="Plantagenet"]Wow! You worked at PS-9? I didn't know that.
{/quote]

Yeah, I was there for about 6 months doing commissioning on the reconfiguration of the pipeline.
Had a great time.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 21 Sep 2015, 12:05:56

Hawkcreek wrote:
Plantagenet wrote:Wow! You worked at PS-9? I didn't know that.
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Yeah, I was there for about 6 months doing commissioning on the reconfiguration of the pipeline.
Had a great time.


Reconfiguration? Is that when they shut down some of the pump stations? And 6 months!?! Well, you got at least part of winter in anyway. Did you cope with it OK?

Its grand country around there in summer. If you ever want to go back for a bit a new lodge has been built on the hill above the old Black Rapids Lodge.
The new lodge has great views, good food and its run by a really great guy who is a fanatic telemark skier, so he keeps it open in the summer and through the winter.

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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Narz » Mon 21 Sep 2015, 13:03:48

That's pretty, looks like something ot of a dream.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby Hawkcreek » Mon 21 Sep 2015, 13:37:14

Plantagenet wrote:Reconfiguration? Is that when they shut down some of the pump stations? And 6 months!?! Well, you got at least part of winter in anyway. Did you cope with it OK?

The new lodge sounds good. If I ever get back up to God's country I will try to check it out.

Reconfiguration was when they went from jet powered pumps on the pipeline to electrically driven pumps. They also shut down all but 4 of the pump stations, and reduced the capacity of the line from 2 million barrels a day to 1.1 million bpd. Alaska really did reach peak oil in the late eighties. Or they spent a billion dollars to reduce the capacity for no good reason. Those changes can't be reversed without spending another few billion.
I was at all of the pump stations over the course of two years, and I wasted much of my life working on the slope previous to that.
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Re: The lie we live

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 21 Sep 2015, 16:15:04

I would think it is the other way around we are sleeping in the bed (world) they made for us. As for baked into the System nothing is baked into the system. Human providence is always active and the System is nothing more then the interaction of us same humans at a particular period or moment in time.
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