radon1 wrote:What does it all have to do with Marx and Engels? Marx surely had no objections against renewables, whether developed by capitalists or else.
Otherwise great OP.
Shaved Monkey wrote:When it comes to "saving the planet" ,its not a matter of liking it better its a matter of which is sustainable
If we all lived like Cubans it would be sustainable.
Sure we like the bling being in a rich capitalist first world nation but its unsustainable.
radon1 wrote:Capitalism is not working towards halting Climate Change, it is working towards maximising profits. Always. It may incidentally lead to some environment favourable outcomes here and there, of course. Or capitalists may engage in various non-capitalist activities during the times when they are free from performing their capitalist duties.
radon1 wrote:And look, Marx has nothing to do with this matter. He did not even comment anything in particular on the environment, to my knowledge. The man was absolute genius and this is recognised even by his opponents, even if he was not always 100% correct.
It increasingly looks like you have a general phobia towards continental Europeans with a big beard.
Karl Marx was a German philosopher, economist, sociologist, journalist, and revolutionary socialist. Born in Prussia to a middle-class family, he later studied political economy and Hegelian philosophy.
-- Wikipedia
Shaved Monkey wrote:When it comes to "saving the planet" ,its not a matter of liking it better its a matter of which is sustainable
If we all lived like Cubans it would be sustainable.
Sure we like the bling being in a rich capitalist first world nation but its unsustainable.
KaiserJeep wrote:No, Capitalism is working towards happiness for the practitioner, because it rewards natural primate instincts.
He was an intellectual, a revolutionary, and a writer. He sponged a living off of Engels, whose family owned a business and were in fact, Capitalists. Marx expressed everything as the struggle between classes, which had a limited validity in the 19th century when we still had actual social classes.
Cog wrote:Shaved Monkey wrote:When it comes to "saving the planet" ,its not a matter of liking it better its a matter of which is sustainable
If we all lived like Cubans it would be sustainable.
Sure we like the bling being in a rich capitalist first world nation but its unsustainable.
Move there now and enjoy Cuba. Lets us know how glorious the worker's paradise is. Do not deprive yourself one moment longer.
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