[litesong]

I wonder who the other noose is for?

Both "loose cog" & plant want someone in the other noose. They have to up their "bloodlust game". U.S. revered leader, Lincoln hung 38 members of Native Tribes.

[Plantagenet]

U.S. revered leader, Lincoln hung 38 members of Native Tribes.

I haven't heard that story before. Why did Lincoln do that?

Did the 38 members of native tribes use private servers for their government email? Why exactly did Lincoln execute them and what does any of this have to do with Hillary Clinton?

Cheers

[KaiserJeep]

That is a famous incident from the Dakota War of 1862. The natives started it by slaughtering over 800 white settlers. The US Army defeated them, capturing 304 prisoners, from which President Lincoln selected 39 to be executed. Then he pardoned one old chief and executed the remaining 38, still the largest mass execution in US history.

Which doesn't even begin to compare with what Andrew Jackson did. He was a famous general who fought in multiple indian wars, before forcibly relocating the survivors in the famous Trail of Tears. Then after becoming president, he established a Federal bounty of $8 per Indian scalp.

Most people remember these things because Lincoln founded the GOP and Jackson founded the Democrats. Niether one liked Indians, nor did very many back then, in spite of Hollywood revisionist history.

[dissident]

That is a famous incident from the Dakota War of 1862. The natives started it by slaughtering over 800 white settlers. The US Army defeated them, capturing 304 prisoners, from which President Lincoln selected 39 to be executed. Then he pardoned one old chief and executed the remaining 38, still the largest mass execution in US history.

Which doesn't even begin to compare with what Andrew Jackson did. He was a famous general who fought in multiple indian wars, before forcibly relocating the survivors in the famous Trail of Tears. Then after becoming president, he established a Federal bounty of $8 per Indian scalp.

Most people remember these things because Lincoln founded the GOP and Jackson founded the Democrats. Niether one liked Indians, nor did very many back then, in spite of Hollywood revisionist history.

The ethnic cleansers were not happy their victims were resisting. Those 800 white settlers is clearly some sort of exaggeration since that would be the elimination of several towns from that era. The number is small by today's standard but large by that of the mid 1800s. We also do not hear about any of the aboriginals slaughtered by settlers which were not even being tracked by US authorities. So Lincoln naturally never executed any settlers for mass murder. Hollywood did its part creating the vicious savage image of US aboriginals so any "revisionism" is not worth much.

[Plantagenet]

The wiki says 303 Sioux were condemned to death after the 1862 war but Lincoln reviewed the evidenced and commuted the sentence of all but 38 who were convicted of murder and rape

[evilgenius]

I wonder who the other noose is for?

The definitive answer is - you. I don't mean you personally, but anyone who has the temerity to ask that question.

[dohboi]

Thanks for your historical accuracy here, dis.

That happened just an hour drive from where I live. My brother-in-law participated in the last commemoration of the event, still fresh in the minds of many local native peoples.

[KaiserJeep]

The local MN website:

The over 600 who were killed compares with 615 battlefield deaths of Minnesota Civil War soldiers. Most of the over 600 who were killed in Minnesota were unarmed non-combatants and most were killed within a 6-week period, whereas those in the Civil War were spread out over a 4-year period. There may have been a little over 100 Dakota who were killed, with very few or possibly no women and children. In contrast, over 100 white women and over 70 white children who were 10 or under were killed.

When looking at a daily toll of victims, there were over 200 killed on August 18, 1862 whereas there were about 235 soldiers killed with General George Custer at the Battle of the Little Big Horn on June 25, 1876. There were only up to six Dakota who were killed on August 18, 1862 in Minnesota. It was a massacre, with the Dakota targeting men, women and children.

http://www.dakotavictims1862.com/Family_and_Friends_of_Dakota_Uprising/Causes,_Significance_%26_Facts.html

I'm not saying that there were not reasons that the Dakota Sioux went to war, but nobody denies they were the aggressors or that the deaths were skewed all on the side of the white settlers.

This is the largest US Indian war with the most casualties. The second largest is the combined Cheyenne and Lakota Sioux conflict at Little Bighorn, where US General Custer bought it.

Both conflicts are probably dwarfed by the Huron Wars, aka the French and Indian Wars, but casualty numbers there are uncertain, and those conflicts were mainly in Canada.

The primary cause of the Sioux uprisings was the fact that the Sioux were attempting to transition from hunter/gatherer nomadic tribes to stationary agriculture, after the fur-bearing animal species were decimated - by firearm-bearing Sioux, in the period 1840-1860. The Indian Agents failed to both teach agriculture and to distribute interim foodstuffs, and the Winter was a harsh one.

Understand, the Indians never had a chance. They were individual tribes, not a nation. The white settlers were more numerous and were a nation with an army. But if anything won the Indian Wars, it was European microbes and European diseases. Compared to disease casualties, all of the Indian wars collectively are very minor.

[dohboi]

"they were the aggressors "



Really kj, you really do slay me.

Soooooooooooo, if a whole continent came and took over your land and banished you to the poorest lands, and then if you ever stayed any kind of marginally effective resistance, you were called the 'AGGRESSORS' and so you and all you knew were hung for such an 'offense'


...then...would you feel that justice really was done.

Oh.

But I'm sorry.

That would require that you could exercise some minimal level of imagination and compassion.

And that of course would be asking far, far too much of you...

My apologies...

Please carry on as you were...

[Plantagenet]

Why do all the Ds rioting in the street even want Hillary? Don't they even know that Hillary is the candidate of the Wall Street takeover of the D party?

It would more useful for the D demonstrators to demonstrate AGAINST HILLARY and AGAINST THE DNC. those are the folks responsible for selling out the D party to the billionaires and Wall Street banksters and abandoning the white working class voters to Trump

[Cog]

Your are asking the rioters to form complex thoughts and analyze why they really lost the election. That is expecting a bit too much.

[Plantagenet]

Your are asking the rioters to form complex thoughts and analyze why they really lost the election. That is expecting a bit too much.

Soros is probably pulling the strings. Groups he funds organized the violent counter demonstrations at the big Chicago Trump rally---this seems like the same modus operandi

[litesong]

No one paid me to be a good citizen.

And you weren't.

[Cog]

I'm imagining you in a tie-dyed shirt and your hair in a pony-tail with a strong smell of patchouli and BO. Am I pretty close?

[litesong]

"they were the aggressors"......if a whole continent came and took over your land and banished you to the poorest lands.....

They are called euros, who spread their technology driven cancers around the world. The new transplanted euros (some called americans) paid Native Tribes for lands with murder, enslavement, torture & starvation. The so-called Indian Reservations became so efficient, they were admired & copied a century later by the euro Hitler. Euro Hitler increased their efficiency & called them.... concentration camps. Get it..... increased efficiency.... concentration camps. Isn't it amazing how history is so...... CONNECTED.

[Cog]

Well the reservations do have casinos now so its not all bad.

[Rod_Cloutier]

The backlash against Hillary losing has started and it is nasty:

https://youtu.be/2nQIcjnMFQo?t=1s

Some people don't know how to lose graciously. Give a handshake when you get fired, and move on. The reaction to this is bizarre:

https://youtu.be/fqm2HQQeHBg?t=2s

[Plantagenet]

The backlash against Hillary losing has started and it is nasty:

https://youtu.be/2nQIcjnMFQo?t=1s

Some people don't know how to lose graciously. Give a handshake when you get fired, and move on. The reaction to this is bizarre:

https://youtu.be/fqm2HQQeHBg?t=2s

Hillary and the DNC stole the nomination from Bernie. Post election polls show Bernie would've beaten Trump

Any D with sense should be after the DNC with pitchforks to make sure they don't disenfranchise their own D voters sgain