Plantagenet wrote:Ms. Zakharova's statement does't make clear what the Russian's mean by "charging Washington." Presumably it means that if Obama orders the US military to conduct a cyberattack on Russia, the Russians will being charges against Obama and the USA at the UN?
That's actually a good sign, if they want to take it to the UN -- versus them just ignoring the US warning, and doing over the line cyberattacks around (worst possible case our power grid, but what's more likely is just twitter games and disinformation and thank goodness, though that's still a problem).
Power grid or messing with the vote itself (not likely), THOSE are things that nobody wants. The entire POINT of what Obama and the US military is doing, is for DETERRENCE so that we DON'T get big attacks around election day.
My own thinking -- I actually don't think Russia would ever take our power grid down because think about it.. if they did that, then they'd also be crashing global stock markets. And a lot of Russian oligarchs, and Putin himself, has so many billions invested offshore. Therefore just logically, they surely wouldn't want to crash global markets.
I think this will all work out. The Russians aren't madmen, BUT make no mistake -- they are our adversary and they have pushed us on our own soil now and in a very serious way.
The Russians are playing chess. The US can either choose to play, and it can play well, or it can play badly and lose, or it can concede the game and surrender.
And then the Russian Kremlin will just control us and run all over us in our own country, and picking our presidents and manipulating us. And Russian propaganda everywhere, and so many believing Pravda and RT yet they won't ever believe what's in Newsweek or the New York Times.
Is that what you guys really want? I don't. I don't know what you guys believe in, but I believe in Ronald Reagan.
And other than that, I really don't even want to argue about this issue.. Obama is a bit TOO cautious actually. A GOOD thing about that though, is at least nobody can say he RUSHES to trouble and conflict -- he only does things when it is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY and finally no choice.
And so, he is just listening to the joint chiefs and national security team and the Pentagon.
I have 100% full trust and faith, in President Obama and the US military leadership, and our reps in congress.
P.S. seriously though, it's a GOOD sign the Russians are talking about taking it to the UN, or other diplomatic response. It's better to talk and argue and talk it out, and the rest of the world can have its input too and honestly I don't believe Putin or the Kremlin are madmen -- they just want advantage, but they don't want to lose everything either.
BUT -- I'm just saying, I happen to believe the "New York Times" and "Newsweek," and the professional media. And, I believe our federal government, on basic things like national security. Even the Republican chairman of the house homeland security committee, agrees about all the hacking issues. And all the other R's do too, and all our US allied governments and their intel agencies, and Mike Pence agrees too (the only one that doesn't agree is Trump, which has all the US allied governments really freaked out).
So I think it'll be okay, cyberwar is a new thing and Russia is figuring out how much it can do to the USA and UK and EUROPE and what the lines are.
The West may have to stand up a bit, or else the Kremlin could actually take us over from within.
Standing up a bit though, and proportional response, and deterrence does not therefore mean WWIII and "nuclear war."
What else can our government do, people? It has to defend the country, do you not agree with that?
"It's a time for choosing," as Reagan said:
Ronald Reagan, "we are Americans:"
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