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For US Jobs Creation, Renewables Are a Better Bet Than Coal

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For US Jobs Creation, Renewables Are a Better Bet Than Coal

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 14:52:57

For U.S. Jobs Creation, Renewables Are a Better Bet Than Coal
By Prachi Patel
Posted 26 Jan 2017 | 20:00 GMT

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For jobs creation, the new Trump administration would do well to take a fresh look at clean energy rather than focusing only on fossil fuels. The solar power sector employed twice as many workers in 2016 than power generation from coal, gas and oil combined, according to a U.S. Department of Energy report on employment in energy and energy efficiency.

The solar workforce was about 374,000-strong, making up around 43% of the total employees in the power generation field. Wind power employed 101,738 workers, an increase of 25%. Coal, gas and oil-fired generation together accounted for just over 187,000 jobs, or 22% of the workforce.

A majority of fossil fuel energy jobs are in mining and extraction rather than power generation, but these jobs are declining. Coal mining reached its peak employment in 2012, and now employs around 53,000. Oil and gas extraction jobs reached a peak in 2014 with 541,000 jobs, and in mid-2016 had 388,000 workers. .. -snip-


Remainder of article is at: http://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/energy/renewables/for-us-jobs-creation-renewables-are-a-better-bet-than-coal
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Re: For US Jobs Creation, Renewables Are a Better Bet Than C

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 15:17:14

I agree---hopefully the Trump administration will endorse renewable energy.

However, we need to do more than just have US workers stuck in low wage jobs installing Chinese made solar cells. We need to bring more high wage manufacturing and EE jobs back to the US.

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Imports of Chinese-made solar cells surged during the Obama years. Hopefully Trump can reverse the trend.
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Re: For US Jobs Creation, Renewables Are a Better Bet Than C

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 15:25:35

Shocking a diffuse energy source that requires thousands of installation to equal the output of one nuclear power plant needs many more workers to construct and maintain?????
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Re: For US Jobs Creation, Renewables Are a Better Bet Than C

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 15:52:57

Tanada wrote:Shocking a diffuse energy source that requires thousands of installation to equal the output of one nuclear power plant needs many more workers to construct and maintain?????


My fondness for solar energy is all "off the grid". Whether you buy electricity from coal plants, nukes, or hydro or whatever, the business model is very different - they sell you power and you are billed monthly forever. Note that the most maintenance-intensive part of the grid, which is your SmartMeter/Circuit Breakers/residential wiring, is owned by you and maintained by you.

When you own your solar roof and a battery, you get free power from the sun, and only have to pay maintenance. Very different, very cost efficient with the current low solar panel pricing and the Tesla Powerwall. The house electric maintenance is slightly higher is all, mostly due to periodic battery replacement.

Edit: Plant, you are not having good luck with your images. I was able to right click on the missing image symbol and display the image in a separate tab, whereupon I discovered it was a chart of solar panel imports from 2007 to 2011.

Edit2: Either you fixed it, or I can see it embedded in the message body now because I opened it separately so it is still in Chrome's buffer.
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Re: For US Jobs Creation, Renewables Are a Better Bet Than C

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 16:22:22

KJ - An even more logical reason to look for more jobs from the alts (and any other new theater) then coal: the coal jobs already exists. Even if US coal production increased it wouldn't bring many new jobs. Especially out west: tech could actually eliminate jobs in the one coal mining regions that has actually been growing in recent years:

Self-driving trucks have begun to hit the roads in the United States, but they’re already hard at work in Australia. British mining company Rio Tinto has 73 autonomous behemoths transporting iron ore 24 hours a day in West Angelas, Australia, across four job sites, according to MIT Tech Review. The autonomous fleet is roughly 15% cheaper than one with human drivers.

{Long ago someone in the coal biz explained why they went with huge carriers: to save money by reducing the employee count especially in union shops}

The trucks, made by Japanese manufacturer Komatsu, weigh 416 tons and use a mix of GPS, radar, and laser sensors to navigate a site. Their job is simple: go to a load site, wait to be filled with iron ore, and then drive to another location. Komatsu estimates that their autonomous trucks have already hauled 1 billion tons of material, mainly in Australia and Chile.


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In this Nov. 15, 2016 photo, a mechanized shovel loads coal from an 80-feet thick seam into a haul truck at Cloud Peak Energy's Spring Creek mine near Decker, Mont. Coal from the mine is shipped to power plants for generating electricity. President-elect Donald Trump's vow to revive coal country is met with measured hope in Appalachia and even out West, where mines stand to gain the most. (AP Photo/Matthew Brown)
Soon to be a human-free workspace. (AP Photo/Matthew Brown)
Self-driving trucks have begun to hit the roads in the United States, but they’re already hard at work in Australia.
British mining company Rio Tinto has 73 autonomous behemoths transporting iron ore 24 hours a day in West Angelas, Australia, across four job sites, according to MIT Tech Review. The autonomous fleet is roughly 15% cheaper than one with human drivers.
The trucks, made by Japanese manufacturer Komatsu, weigh 416 tons and use a mix of GPS, radar, and laser sensors to navigate a site. Their job is simple: go to a load site, wait to be filled with iron ore, and then drive to another location. Komatsu estimates that their autonomous trucks have already hauled 1 billion tons of material, mainly in Australia and Chile.
The human team overseeing the robots work 750 miles away, according to MIT Tech Review, far from being able to physically take action should something go wrong.

Autonomous systems have been pitched to mining companies as a safer, cheaper way to operate their business. Mining sites are usually remote and highly regulated already, making them a stable training ground for robots, according to Herman Herman, director of the National Robotics Engineering Center at Carnegie Mellon University.

Caterpillar, an American Komatsu competitor, says its autonomous trucks provide the same work as a skilled truck driver no matter where the site is located, meaning mining companies don’t need to worry about the quality of local labor in remote mines. The company also points to the trucks’ ability to alert mine staff the second it notices any abnormalities on the site.

However, the fact remains that these machines are replacing well-paying jobs. And mining certainly isn’t the end. While the work sites can be more complex, construction is also fertile ground for automation. Construction inspection might be a first step towards automation in the field, like automatically assessing railway tracks or using drones for building inspections.
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Re: For US Jobs Creation, Renewables Are a Better Bet Than C

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Tue 21 Feb 2017, 17:18:45

I know about the "road trains" seen in Oz. But you will never see such on US roads. President Eisenhower built our Interstate Highway system in the 1950's and he had the system designed to what was then a comfortable 40-ton weight limitation, which would allow for a 1950's main battle tank and a tractor/trailer to transport it. Nowadays we move the M1A2 main battle tanks by rail, as the tank alone weighs 65 tons, and would only be moved by road in an emergency, as it is over the 40-ton limit.
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