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Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 22 Apr 2017, 06:45:11

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“What is thinkable is also possible.”
— Ludwig Wittgenstein

Proof:

We as a part of the Universe are thinking, dreaming and creating so the Universe does thinking.


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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Sun 23 Apr 2017, 03:28:47

This is a Tautologie

If the Universe makes it possible to think it is thinkable to think everything is possible.


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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 23 Apr 2017, 07:01:33

You can think about traveling at light speed all you want and it will not make it one bit possible. 8)
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby Cog » Sun 23 Apr 2017, 07:19:08

If you think your wife will believe you were out all night saving souls for Jesus, you have another think coming.
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Sun 23 Apr 2017, 08:10:20

vtsnowedin wrote:You can think about traveling at light speed all you want and it will not make it one bit possible. 8)


False

If my mind could be transformed into information (bits) of light=energy i could for sure travel with speed of light.

Proof: E²=(pc)²+(mC²)²

While you can transform bits = photons in mass :idea:

If the Universe did it Mankind as part of it could do it too.
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 23 Apr 2017, 08:28:46

M_B_S wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:You can think about traveling at light speed all you want and it will not make it one bit possible. 8)


False

If my mind could be transformed into information (bits) of light=energy i could for sure travel with speed of light.

Proof: E²=(pc)²+(mC²)²

While you can transform bits = photons in mass :idea:
Mighty big IF there. :)
If the Universe did it Mankind as part of it could do it too.
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Sun 23 Apr 2017, 10:28:50

vtsnowedin wrote:
M_B_S wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:You can think about traveling at light speed all you want and it will not make it one bit possible. 8)


False

If my mind could be transformed into information (bits) of light=energy i could for sure travel with speed of light.

Proof: E²=(pc)²+(mC²)²

While you can transform bits = photons in mass :idea:
Mighty big IF there. :)
If the Universe did it Mankind as part of it could do it too.


What are you or I or everything?

Answer:

@ The beginning BIG BANG there was nothing but light

Everything is E²=(pc)²+(mC²)²

So you and I are a sum of poor energy so light with spin momentum and mass.
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 24 Apr 2017, 03:47:20

Capitalising & bolding 'IF' is hardly a null comment. If, being the mother of all conceptual thought, is an acutely important word.

I don't recall the terminology, but recall reading something in physics about a level of existence where everything is simultaneously connected. Time being a simple example- it is 'now' right now, everywhere.
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Mon 24 Apr 2017, 07:07:52

SeaGypsy wrote:Capitalising & bolding 'IF' is hardly a null comment. If, being the mother of all conceptual thought, is an acutely important word.

I don't recall the terminology, but recall reading something in physics about a level of existence where everything is simultaneously connected. Time being a simple example- it is 'now' right now, everywhere.


Correct Wittgenstein would see the "IF" as the prime "number" in the product <=>sentence of my prediction.

If it is possible to think you can be only light-bits it is possible by natural law.

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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 24 Apr 2017, 15:41:48

M_B_S wrote:
If it is possible to think you can be only light-bits it is possible by natural law.

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If that were true then you could just think that gravity on earth was subject to your direction and just float away.
Thinking about a subject does not make it any more possible or impossible then it was before it was thought about by anyone.
Of course what is possible won't be discovered before someone thinks about the problem and tries to solve it. But that does not carry through to all problems being solved once they are thought about.
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Tue 25 Apr 2017, 05:15:19

@ vtsnowedin

Wittgenstein would have said i have made a bad sentence so i should better be silent.

I ment thinking about something is possible by natural law.

Gravity is a fact <=> Natural Law but you have to dismantle it as Newton did.

=> Is god a fact? Was (s)he, it ever dismantled?

There is something called gravity is a fact that holds the things together so what is it?

Reality is the sum of all facts = natural laws so the world.

Theorem You could not have something without having nothing <=> Proof : 0=0 => 1+0=1

Our Universe could be a picture of facts so a dream , simulation or hologram is a possibility i think.

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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 25 Apr 2017, 08:51:41

I'll leave you to your contemplation M-B-S. I'm just too practical a person to dwell on such abstract thinking. :)
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Tue 25 Apr 2017, 12:05:12

vtsnowedin wrote:I'll leave you to your contemplation M-B-S. I'm just too practical a person to dwell on such abstract thinking. :)


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Big Ifs


If nature is doing something we as part of it could do it too by natural law

If nature creates black holes we could create it too

If nature does fission or fusion we could do it too

If we are dreaming nature does it too

If we are thinking nature does it too

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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby hydrolog » Tue 25 Apr 2017, 15:42:12

vtsnowedin wrote:I'll leave you to your contemplation M-B-S. I'm just too practical a person to dwell on such abstract thinking. :)


hehe me too! :)



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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Tue 25 Apr 2017, 19:00:36

M_B_S wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:I'll leave you to your contemplation M-B-S. I'm just too practical a person to dwell on such abstract thinking. :)


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Big Ifs


If nature is doing something we as part of it could do it too by natural law

If nature creates black holes we could create it too

If nature does fission or fusion we could do it too

If we are dreaming nature does it too

If we are thinking nature does it too

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All of that is on a plane that is supposed to be above my level of understanding and in fact is just nonsense as far as I can see and can justify based on the facts in the present.
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 25 Apr 2017, 19:16:04

Ants can do stuff humans can't do. Like other critters, we have our niche, wide as it may be.
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Wed 26 Apr 2017, 03:40:34

SeaGypsy wrote:Ants can do stuff humans can't do. Like other critters, we have our niche, wide as it may be.


We are creating ants simulation in this moment.

There will be Homo Deus

Examples

God: "There will be light" Yes thought Edison for sure there will be a light-bulb.

God: "I will struck you with my lightning flash" Yes thought Teslar I will construct a machine to do it also.

That rap(e)s :idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ1Mz7kGVf0
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Re: Thesis: All thinkable is possible?!

Unread postby M_B_S » Wed 26 Apr 2017, 09:32:36

HOMO DEUS

Teslar was a dreamer and thinker! :idea:
Nikola Tesla vs Thomas Edison EPIC NEW Documentary 2015 HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zOo0YaurNQ
Tesla - The Real God of Lightning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOgoXbuqJDI
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