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Unread postby onlooker » Wed 24 May 2017, 16:40:49

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2017- ... worldview/

A House on Shaky Ground: Eight Structural Flaws of the Western Worldview
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Re: Western world view flawed

Unread postby Cog » Wed 24 May 2017, 16:57:50

This is the point at which I stopped reading:

Communism failed, we are told, because it was founded on an unrealistic view of human nature, whereas capitalism succeeded because it’s based on harnessing the selfish nature of each individual for the ultimate good of society.
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Re: Western world view flawed

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Wed 24 May 2017, 18:02:23

It's a kind of progressive manifesto. Just like the Unabomber manifesto, it has a few gems of knowledge buried in feces. I read the entire dreary article, although I almost bailed in several places. He said in effect that if we were not humans with natural human feelings and desires, that we would not have as many problems, and could make progress resolving the problems we have.

As an intellectual exercise, I can follow such foolish thoughts. However there are no insights and no solutions here. The fundamental nature of mankind evolves in times of plenty and devolves in times of stress and resource shortages. At least, the writings about such things show such changes - humans pretty much behave the same always.

We are about to experience shortages of almost everything, since most things we consume depend upon cheap energy. It will be instructive for many Western intellectuals to observe the starvation of the vast Third World, as the fortunate First Worlders preserve their lifestyle by acquiring the remaining FF's. Because we are apes and not much different from all the other apes, in spite of a late-blooming crowd of progressive anthropologists, who believe that humans possess qualities not found in the other primates. Our intelligence is indeed different, and it means that we can implement either the baser instincts or all apes or the more noble ones. Based on past performance and the glacial pace of evolution, I'm offering 3 to 1 odds on the baser instincts.

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Re: Western world view flawed

Unread postby onlooker » Wed 24 May 2017, 18:08:08

Our intelligence is indeed different, and it means that we can implement either the baser instincts or all apes or the more noble ones. Well, then at least you are leaving somewhat open the question. I guess those in the future will know the answer.
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Re: Western world view flawed

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Wed 24 May 2017, 18:28:35

The most fundamental difference between Progressives and Traditionalists is quite simple. Traditionalists believe that the way things are and have long been, will remain so. Progressives believe that the future will comply with their wishes. Both of course, seek to comfort themselves by understanding the future.
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Re: Western world view flawed

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 24 May 2017, 19:17:15

onlooker wrote:http://www.resilience.org/stories/2017-05-22/a-house-on-shaky-ground-eight-structural-flaws-of-the-western-worldview/

A House on Shaky Ground: Eight Structural Flaws of the Western Worldview


PCI really does need to improve the vetting of the articles they post, don't they? I've noticed one recently that was nothing but a retread of Communism as a cure for the world's ills, laughed myself hoarse over that one.
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Re: Western world view flawed

Unread postby DesuMaiden » Sat 27 May 2017, 16:22:47

No the greatest flaw in human thinking is our inability to grasp how powerful exponential growth is. I would like to point this out again:

"The destruction of the natural world is not the result of global capitalism, industrialism, Western civilization or any flaw in human institutions. It is the consequence of the evolutionary success of an exceptionally rapacious primate. Throughout history and prehistory, human advance has coinceided with ecological devastation"

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Humanity is the biggest threat to biodiversity on this planet, and if we (humans) hypotehtically became extinct overnight, the world would become a better place. Much better place.
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Re: Western world view flawed

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 27 May 2017, 20:49:05

Great post Desu
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Re: Western world view flawed

Unread postby sparky » Sun 28 May 2017, 21:00:59

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Humans react to an old atavism , crashing the population to get rid of the genetically deficient
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