[onlooker]

Well, we can all agree that we are truly as a species are on a disasterous course, even if we do not agree on timing and specifics. Well, in light of this I contemplate the following:
It is tiring to hear appeals for certain emotions as most appropriate to have dealt with our unsustainable trajectory. I mean isn't it fear that deep down prevents people from accepting certain facts or desire for this or that desired outcome. What we needed was to master our emotions and squarely and objectively look at where we were headed. Perhaps if many had done that including some in the elite decision making circles , we could have steered a different direction. Just maybe.

[Newfie]

Oh but that we could! From your lips to Gods ears.

[Cog]

Or it could be us denialists simply don't believe you.

[Newfie]

Cog,

It’s not simply not believing “us.” It’s a complete rejection of the science around the subject AND also the pure physical observable evidence.

It takes a great deal of work to construct and maintain what is essentially a “flat earth” ideology in the modern world.

For the last few days I’ve been arguing this elsewhere pretty hard with a bunch of deniers. I’m kinda worn out with the pure BS and attitude they have been shoveling.

On the other hand I can surely understand why the Right would be alarmed, if not freightened, by some of the BS being passed around by the “progressive” left. But I think you already know my views in the GND. Take some comfort in knowing there is not a lot of support for that here even amongst the AWG crowd.

[Ibon]

The elite have the most to lose and are therefore the most fearful and dedicate the most time and money to a defensive position. The poor being poor have the least to lose. The elite sense this asymmetry which makes them even more fearful. History shows the power of uprisings lies with those that have the least to lose!

[SeaGypsy]

Yeah must be terrifying, poor rich buggers.

[Tanada]

Yeah must be terrifying, poor rich buggers.

The smart ones cultivate good relationships with their employees and security folks. Like the way Ibon treats his local work force. They get paid a reasonable wage and get the respect any human being desires. The Elites who will have problems are those who walk all over their workforce and wring every but of advantage possible out of the relationship, all take with very little give. I have had bosses I would have done anything I could to help in a crisis because they were good people. Sadly I also had bosses I wouldn't urinate on if they were on fire. Guess which kind will be the feudal lords of the post apocalypse and which ones will be put up against a wall and eliminated by their own security forces?