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RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Revi » Mon 08 Apr 2019, 15:07:46

Jay Hanson was an amazing person who wrote Dieoff, which was my intro to peak oil. He will be missed!
http://www.dieoff.org/

Please let us know your experiences with his site! I first checked it out at the suggestion of a student of mine.

My mind was blown, but then I went back to consuming fossil fuel.

It nagged at me, and finally I succumbed and started my journey down the rabbit hole of peak oil.
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Revi » Tue 09 Apr 2019, 14:08:14

He will be remembered, by me at least...
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Revi » Wed 10 Apr 2019, 10:37:38

Does nobody on here remember him? Or is this just a place for trollbots?
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby jedrider » Wed 10 Apr 2019, 13:19:44

"The destruction of the natural world is not the result of global capitalism, industrialisation, “Western civilisation” or any flaw in human institutions. It is a consequence of the evolutionary success of an exceptionally rapacious primate. Throughout all of history and prehistory, human advance has coincided with ecological devastation. — John Gray, STRAW DOGS"

As the serpent eats it's own tail. It was a squandering of resources certainly, just so that I could be typing this message on this keyboard. :-D
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Revi » Thu 11 Apr 2019, 08:30:47

jedrider wrote:"The destruction of the natural world is not the result of global capitalism, industrialisation, “Western civilisation” or any flaw in human institutions. It is a consequence of the evolutionary success of an exceptionally rapacious primate. Throughout all of history and prehistory, human advance has coincided with ecological devastation. — John Gray, STRAW DOGS"

As the serpent eats it's own tail. It was a squandering of resources certainly, just so that I could be typing this message on this keyboard. :-D


Yes. We are a dissipative creature. We are taking out all of the resources, burning and scattering them. Like any heat engine we'll stop moving when the fuel runs out. It's great to re-read some of his writings and see that he was right. It would be nice to live in the world that we were told would last forever, but we don't. Scary times ahead!

http://dieoff.com/synopsis.htm
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Revi » Thu 11 Apr 2019, 08:47:49

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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Revi » Thu 11 Apr 2019, 09:31:35

Here's a short synopsis of his overall thesis on peak oil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J621FuN5zQ0
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 24 Sep 2019, 16:29:40

Revi wrote:Jay Hanson was an amazing person who wrote Dieoff, which was my intro to peak oil. He will be missed!
http://www.dieoff.org/

Please let us know your experiences with his site!

Go and check this site *now*.
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Newfie » Tue 24 Sep 2019, 16:32:25

I don’t follow the gurus.

So what I’m taking from that link is someone emptied all content?
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 24 Sep 2019, 16:37:48

Newfie wrote:I don’t follow the gurus.

So what I’m taking from that link is someone emptied all content?

Now they are advertising steroids there.
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Pops » Tue 24 Sep 2019, 17:14:10

I had not seen this. Hanson was my guru for a long while before PO.com. I think I picked him up on the old TB2k or maybe Frugal Squirrel survivalist pages in the '90s. He was big into Limits to Growth. His site was where I first saw Richard Duncan's Olduvai theory, the reason I plotted energy per capita for years on this site.

I may have downloaded his entire archive at one point, it was a big PDF. Here are a couple of places to find dieoff the PDF download link is dead now.

Here is the first crawl of dieoff on the wayback machine

Here is his personal post dieoff page

Ah! Here is dieoff.COM
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Re: RIP Jay Hanson of Dieoff.

Unread postby Revi » Thu 26 Sep 2019, 13:57:18

He was very influential to a lot of us. Once we went down the rabbit hole things were never the same. I realize that not one person in a thousand knows how the world really works. It's good to be enlightened, but sometimes I wish I didn't know...
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