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Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby mustang19 » Fri 13 Nov 2020, 16:14:24

You might think that the electronics are impossible, but there are in fact home made electronics and cpu. And home made nuclear reactors.

How long would it take 10 persons, working alone, to build the USS Nimitz from scratch?

Heres what I understand;

The Nimitz has about 100,000 tons of steel.

It also has about 10 tons of uranium.

It has about 1,000 tons of copper, gold and other rare metals.

So given all this a historical medieval iron smelter produced, roughly 1 ton of steel or metal per day. That would take (roughly) 1000 years to produce all the steel.

Uranium has a crustal abundance roughly 10000 times less than steel- but is also used less, so the cost should be similar.

Other materials should be about the same cost. Say after these 3 categories we've spent 3000 years.

Then, the assembly. You would assemble some construction equipment first. There are home made vehicles and equipment about the size of a car, so if we have 10 people they should be able to build a roughly 10 ton piece of equipment. This takes roughly a year.

Tower cranes in shipyards are roughly 300 tons, and are the largest piece of equipment. So our 10 tons per year of equipment is 30 years to build this.

Once we have the equipment and materials, it's just a matter of building the ship. David Hahn built a 1kw of reactor in about a month. A 1gw reactor with 10 workers should take a million times more. That's 10,000 years for our team. We could probably reduce that to 1,000 years because of scale.

A construction team requires about 10 people to build a 2,000 sq ft house in 3 months and aircraft carriers are relatively simple to build. So since our carrier is about 1 million square feet that's another 10,000 years of assembly. And its repetitive work which could probably be reduced to 1,000.

And that's it. We've built an aircraft carrier over 5,000 years with 10 people- and could probably automate and do it in less.

Oh and Sam Zeloff makes a transistor in about a few minutes. That means about 1000 years to build a 1b transistor chip.
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Re: Mindboggling troll

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 13 Nov 2020, 16:17:37

mustang19 wrote: blah blah blah going on and on....


So....why use a misleading title? You certainly didn't say a word about a mindboggling troll, unless you then meant to demonstrate you are one with the body of work that followed?
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Re: Mindboggling troll

Unread postby JuanP » Fri 13 Nov 2020, 16:46:55

I vote for deleting this thread! LOL!
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Re: Mindboggling troll

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 13 Nov 2020, 18:42:23

JuanP wrote:I vote for deleting this thread! LOL!


Seconded!
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Re: Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby mustang19 » Fri 13 Nov 2020, 21:34:57

Mods, I am just here to troll the trolls. I mean no harm.
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Re: Mindboggling troll

Unread postby dirtyharry » Sat 14 Nov 2020, 01:31:37

JuanP wrote:I vote for deleting this thread! LOL!


I agree . Delete .
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Re: Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby Newfie » Sat 14 Nov 2020, 10:15:49

Just don’t reply any more and it will atrophy and die if its own accord.

Tolerate its existence and move on. :-D
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Re: Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby careinke » Sat 14 Nov 2020, 13:52:38

Cancel culture raises it's ugly head once again. 8)
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Re: Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 14 Nov 2020, 19:25:57

Mustang19 is an excellent new poster. He started an interesting thread with some important new data on....wait for it......peak oil.

And then he was relentlessly attacked for daring to post new data that supports the idea of peak oil.

Personally, I welcome Mustang19 and I hope he posts more.

Its refreshing to have a new poster who actually has interesting ideas and is willing to take the time to do research and then post data and links that support his ideas.

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Re: Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 14 Nov 2020, 20:25:13

Plantagenet wrote:Mustang19 is an excellent new poster. He started an interesting thread with some important new data on....wait for it......peak oil.


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Re: Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 14 Nov 2020, 23:33:22

Of course some people think the world will never reach peak oil. Some think there is an infinite supply of oil or perhaps they think the world will shift to renewable energy and bio- fuels and no longer use oil.

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Re: Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 15 Nov 2020, 11:29:23

Plantagenet wrote:Of course some people think the world will never reach peak oil.


I've never met one. Have you? Some of the abiotic folks perhaps? I don't even think they argue that peak oil can't happen, as abiotic oil can only ooze up from the mantle so fast, and we're using it faster than that, supposedly.

Hubbert's explanation of peak oil was quite axiomatic in nature, as we have discussed before. Denying peak oil is like denying the Sun will come up in the East.
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Re: Mindboggling Theory

Unread postby mustang19 » Sun 15 Nov 2020, 18:49:16

Plantagenet wrote:Mustang19 is an excellent new poster. He started an interesting thread with some important new data on....wait for it......peak oil.

And then he was relentlessly attacked for daring to post new data that supports the idea of peak oil.

Personally, I welcome Mustang19 and I hope he posts more.

Its refreshing to have a new poster who actually has interesting ideas and is willing to take the time to do research and then post data and links that support his ideas.

Cheers!


There honeslty isnt anything else to say. Its screwed.
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Re: Mindboggling troll

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 30 Nov 2020, 04:03:38

AdamB wrote:
mustang19 wrote: blah blah blah going on and on....


So....why use a misleading title? You certainly didn't say a word about a mindboggling troll, unless you then meant to demonstrate you are one with the body of work that followed?

And I saw zero citations in the O.P. for all his claims and musings. Sort of like the work of a small child with lots of imagination making up a story.

Perfectly acceptable for, say, a 5 or 8 year old. For a competent adult making supposedly serious claims about a theory: NOT SO MUCH.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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