vtsnowedin wrote:MonteQuest"I agree. Some have opined that all the renewables we will ever need have already been built. Others have said that all the renewables we will ever have--have already been built. Connect the dots.
I see both of those as obviously false, dots connected or not.
Consider using fossil fuels to build and ICE car that will then burn fossil fuel throughout it's life time ,against using a similar amount of fossil fuel to build an EV and solar panels ,which will then use the power from the panels to run the car as far as the ICE vehicle goes if not farther. Less total fossil fuel use, cleaner air , as much accomplished for the owner in the way if transportation. etc.
It's still too much sugar in the Petri Dish. If a boat has a capacity of 8 and there are 20 onboard, (2 1/2 earths) letting a few off doesn't stop the boat from swamping or capsizing. You have to let 12 off. Anything beyond 8 is overshoot, subject to a die-off. You are either above carrying capacity or you are not.
And the connect the dots above means that society and population collapses where you can't build more, or don't need to.