vtsnowedin wrote:Absolutely not. No , and a thousand times no.AdamB wrote:vtsnowedin wrote: Which "competent person" in the White house are you referring to? I can't think of one.
Secretaries of Treasury, Defense, and the Attorney General would seem to qualify. Hard pressed to find others though.
vtsnowedin wrote:Actually the press has had a strong bias, one way or the other, from the days of Ben Franklin.
vtsnowedin wrote: Think of the Spanish American war and "remember the Maine" and"you give me the pictures and I'll give you your war". And then there was FDR that was never shown in his wheel chair. Then JFK never questioned about Fiddle and Faddle. In the days where their was one or two local news papers and later just three radio and television networks it was easy to convince the majority that the news presented was the truth.
Now not so much.
vtsnowedin wrote:I had to back track on reading that when I realized you were talking about the Bush presidencies and not the real King Georges.
vtsnowedin wrote:No point in writing Bernie about anything. He has not changed one of his socialist positions in forty years.
vtsnowedin wrote: He comes very close to the definition of an Honest politician.
"Once he is bought he stays bought"
AdamB wrote:into sacking the capital in protest of how rigged the elections are in Vermont? RHINO!!!
And your neighbors sure seem to love the guy! FEEL THE BERN!!!
You haven't organized the local MAGA chapter into sacking the capital in protest of how rigged the elections are in Vermont? RHINO!!!
mousepad wrote:AdamB wrote:into sacking the capital in protest of how rigged the elections are in Vermont? RHINO!!!
Count me in on that. There's way too little sacking happening.
mousepad wrote:And your neighbors sure seem to love the guy! FEEL THE BERN!!!
Only the moochers who are hoping for a life paid by somebody else's work.
The problem is that sacking capitals by the MAGA folks isn't expressing the disgust most folks have with the government, but disappointment over having been discovered as patriot-fascists, and voters noticed.
Doly wrote:The problem is that sacking capitals by the MAGA folks isn't expressing the disgust most folks have with the government, but disappointment over having been discovered as patriot-fascists, and voters noticed.
I haven't noticed that MAGA folks have sacked any capitals yet. Not saying it can't happen, but what was going on in Jan 6th definitely doesn't count as sacking Washington DC.
Doly wrote:And I honestly have no idea what they were trying to express. The whole thing never made the slightest bit of sense to me.
vtsnowedin wrote:I'm not a MAGA Trumper or even a Trump voter but can't stand Biden or any of his appointees.
vtsnowedin wrote: Then throw in OPEC's decision to cut production and the sanctions against Russian oil and gas and we will have a world wide shortage soon and that will lead to much higher prices.
vtsnowedin wrote: Now Ukraine might achieve a quick victory this year and Putin could be over thrown and a new Democratic government replace him and trade relations with Russia return to normal next year but I expect only one of those things will happen and Biden will have little to do with it so will not deserve any credit.
AdamB wrote:vtsnowedin wrote: Now Ukraine might achieve a quick victory this year and Putin could be over thrown and a new Democratic government replace him and trade relations with Russia return to normal next year but I expect only one of those things will happen and Biden will have little to do with it so will not deserve any credit.
Unless it happens during his administration. Then, under the "Rules Of Who Gets Credit" (as authored by Vtsnowedin), he will.
vtsnowedin wrote: I am not too worried about Biden achieving anything positive he deserves credit for.
Vtsnowedin wrote:
And if Ukraine scores a decisive victory causing Putin's overthrow the credit will go to Zelensky not Biden.
And Biden will get the credit, under the aforementioned rule book, of having the cajones, foresight and outstanding strategic undertanding to give him the weapons to do it, in quantity, all as part of his greater strategy to show that the Russian bear is far more of a cub than expected. Because...he did...and Zelensky won. If Zelensky loses, then Biden will get credit for having found a safe space to try out new weapons, give the US military a chance to see how a more modern non-nuclear war will be fought (as they are paying attention for sure), and it only cost some $$ to get a headstart on winning the next US war, regardless of when it happens.
Doly wrote:There is another option, though. It could be that Poland and some other Eastern European countries get actively involved in the war, because they already are pretty seriously involved already and domestic politics could drag them into declaring full-out war, and that would mean that NATO gets involved in a war with Russia, which is pretty much the standard definition of WWIII.
AdamB wrote:vtsnowedin wrote: I am not too worried about Biden achieving anything positive he deserves credit for.
But of course you aren't VT, of course. Unfortunately though, under the "Rules of Who Gets Credit", he already gets credit for dragging us out of the Trump recession. Sorry, but the rules say this one is already in the books, even if he screws the pooch some other dozen ways in the next 2 years.
vtsnowedin wrote: Sure, Biden drags us out of the Covid recession (not Trumps)
vtsnowedin wrote:
Who could ask for more. ??
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