Plantagenet wrote:Biden just promised to send enough US natural gas to Europe to replace all the Russian natural gas they aren't going to buy anymore.
Somehow Biden has forgotten the whole idea of getting off fossil fuels to mitigate climate change. Now he's all for pushing for more drilling and more fossil fuel production (and that means more climate change).
Cheers!
vtsnowedin wrote:Biden promised a ....large portion of our production but they will have to get cracking on the transfer facilities on both ends to do even that. The Europeans need more port facilities anyway for any gas they can import from the middle east as LNG.
Just build the houses over the tundra and punch a hole in the floor and light it up!
Do you not realize that natural gas causes about 40% less emissions of CO2 then coal to produce the same amount of electricity?Plantagenet wrote:
And Natural Gas (or methane) is a huge contributor to global warming, which is destabilizing the climate of the entire planet.
Biden essentially is proposing to destroy the planet in order to save Ukraine.
vtsnowedin wrote:Do you not realize that natural gas causes about 40% less emissions of CO2 then coal to produce the same amount of electricity?
.
Natural gas is a relatively clean burning fossil fuel
Burning natural gas for energy results in fewer emissions of nearly all types of air pollutants and carbon dioxide (CO2) than burning coal or petroleum products to produce an equal amount of energy. About 117 pounds of CO2 are produced per million British thermal units (MMBtu) equivalent of natural gas compared with more than 200 pounds of CO2 per MMBtu of coal and more than 160 pounds per MMBtu of distillate fuel oil. The clean burning properties of natural gas have contributed to increased natural gas use for electricity generation and as a transportation fuel for fleet vehicles in the United States.
Natural gas is mainly methane—a strong greenhouse gas
Some natural gas leaks into the atmosphere from oil and natural gas wells, storage tanks, pipelines, and processing plants. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency estimates that in 2019, methane emissions from natural gas and petroleum systems and from abandoned oil and natural gas wells were the source of about 29% of total U.S. methane emissions and about 3% of total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.1 The oil and natural gas industry takes steps to prevent natural gas leaks.
methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas then CO2. Each molecule of CH4 is 30-70 times more powerful then a molecule of CO2 when it comes to the Greenhouse effect.
vtsnowedin wrote: Methane fades away as being your primary concern.
vtsnowedin wrote:there is no good reason to just vent any methane into the air via leaks of any kind from well heads to pipelines. Also I find it illogical to just burn off or vent methane from oil wells without doing something useful with the heat.
And just how do you propose to do that without destroying economies and killing billions?Plantagenet wrote:
The only way to slow and stop global warming is to slow and then stop the use of fossil fuels like Natural gas, coal, and petroleum.
vtsnowedin wrote:And just how do you propose to do that without destroying economies and killing billions?Plantagenet wrote:
The only way to slow and stop global warming is to slow and then stop the use of fossil fuels like Natural gas, coal, and petroleum.
vtsnowedin wrote:Well let us know when you get all the permits for those Nuclear plants issued and all the NIMBY law suits all settled in your favor.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:But it all takes political will and long term commitment to the project, neither of which any of the modern democracies seem capable of producing.
AdamB wrote:Tanada wrote:But it all takes political will and long term commitment to the project, neither of which any of the modern democracies seem capable of producing.
Hoo-Rah! Now that is a decent breakdown as to the how and why it could be possible and wasn't and yet could be in the future. I don't object that it tends to discombobulate the entire peak oil being meaningful angle either, as nukes creating hydrogen for direct combustion or fuel use is a nice green way to solve yet even more of the worlds underlying energy use issues.
You know, do we have a "frequently asked questions" place somewhere on this site where the question "why hasn't the US gone nuclear and what is stopping us" are answered, and Tanada's explanation can be used to fill in the blank on that one? Because it really covers the entire topic rather succinctly. And it applies as a global answer as well, with maybe some exceptions for countries whom no one wants to get their hands on anything fissionable.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Return to Environment, Weather & Climate
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests