[jato0072]

March 20, 2023.

The plenary session “Russia-Africa in a Multipolar World” was held in Moscow.
More than 40 official parliamentary delegation from almost all African countries took part in the Second International Parliamentary Conference “Russia-Africa”. President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin addressed the Conference participants...

“We are convinced that Africa will become one of the leaders of the emerging new multipolar world order, as there are all objective prerequisites for that,” said the head of state (Putin).

I didn't catch this in the mainstream news, I found it on some comment thread, so I am posting it here.

Link

2023 is turning out to be the "Multi-Polar" year.

The Brandon Administration seems to be losing control of the GAE (Global American Empire).

[theluckycountry]

Yes, I missed this one. We typically think of Africa as a backward nation of fighting tribes, which it is, but it also has vast resources that could lift it's people out of the slums if it took control of them. Possibly the wealth would/WILL end up in the hands of the dictators but either way it will be a loss for the west who looting the gold, oil, diamonds, rare earths etc out of it now.

[Plantagenet]

Africa ... has vast resources that could lift it's people out of the slums if it took control of them. Possibly the wealth would/WILL end up in the hands of the dictators but either way it will be a loss for the west who looting the gold, oil, diamonds, rare earths etc out of it now.

You're not keeping up with current events.

Its not the evil "West" that is taking control of Africa's resources.

Its CHINA.

All across Africa China is bribing African leaders and taking control of natural resources and building infrastructure and trapping African countries under huge amounts of debt.

I've travelled in African and I've seen it. You can go to almost any remote, poor, underdeveloped African nation and you've find Chinese workers building freeways to nowhere and huge bridges that end at a dirt road into the jungle and ports and huge poshy hotels and business quarters that are intended solely of the use of the Chinese colonialists. And the chinese are "loaning" the African nations the money to build al the Chinese infrastructure, and when the African nations can't pay back their loans.....well........China just seizes the ports and roads and everything else.

The Chinese are turning themselves into the new colonial masters of Africa.



Cheers!

[jato0072]

More evidence the US is losing its hegemonic status. Hence the thread title.

[Plantagenet]

More evidence the US is losing its hegemonic status. Hence the thread title.

The US never had "hegemonic" control over any part of Africa.

In the past Africa was colonized mainly by England, with France, Belgium, Germany, Spain and even Italy colonizing various parts of the African continent.

Now the colonies are gone.

Now Its China that is engaged in a new era of colonialism in Africa.



Cheers!

[jato0072]

America was also Colonized by England. What does that have to do with US not being a hegemonic power? Where have you been since 1945?

[Plantagenet]

Where have you been since 1945?

What a funny question.

But OK...I always try to answer direct questions.

Like everyone else I was born and then I went to school. After that I went to college and then to graduate school.....pretty much the usual sort of thing, only a bit better.

Since then I've been lucky enough to travel all over the world, both for my job and also on my own.


I've been all over the world. I haven't been everywhere, but I'm constantly amazed when I follow the world news at just how many places I've been able to visit. And I'm still traveling now.....I've got plans for several new trips over the coming year.

The list of all the places I've been is very long......far too long for me to list here.

Is there any specific place that interests you?

If so, just let me know and If I've been there I will share my impressions of it with you.

Cheers!

[jato0072]

[Newfie]

Googling “China Development in Africa” will provide much reading material.

In the Caribbean one can see Chinese influence in the poorer islands.

Ironically those islands still held by their European parents are far more developed and prosperous. At least for now.

[ralfy]

More points from the summit here:

https://twitter.com/upholdreality/

"France Warns Will Retaliate If Its Interests Attacked In Niger"

https://www.barrons.com/news/france-war ... r-df4a8942

[ralfy]

Interestingly enough, references to China are also made in other forums where this issue is discussed.

From one liberal outlet:

"The Chinese ‘Debt Trap’ Is a Myth"

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... cy/617953/

The gist is that China operates like a regular bank: loans provided in exchange for collateral. In contrast is structural adjustment employed by organizations like the IMF and WB: borrowers need to follow policies imposed by creditors, which turn out to be advantageous to the latter.

They did similar in Ukraine, but with aid: $5 billion in exchange for setting up a pro-U.S. government.

As for the view that those countries managed by Europeans do better, usually neocons make that point. That should be the case because a country has to have a minimum level of stability so that it can be exploited in the long term.

[ralfy]

Related:

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/stat ... 1122651137

Burkina Faso has RESUMED diplomatic ties with North Korea

[theluckycountry]

I've been all over the world. I haven't been everywhere, but I'm constantly amazed when I follow the world news at just how many places I've been able to visit. And I'm still traveling now.....I've got plans for several new trips over the coming year.

A hegemonist if ever I heard of one, a traveling tourist protected by his US passport and money. The US has/had hegemonic interests all over Africa, but they didn't send many troops, they sent $$$$ and bought up the mines and farms. Your picture of China's expansion into Africa is probably correct, they are doing the exact same thing but at least they are partnering with the nations and building infrastructure. What infrastructure did the US ever help build there? Nothing.

The US is turning oil-rich Nigeria into a proxy for its Africa wars
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/13/us-o ... xy-africa/

Forty percent of Nigerians live below the poverty line: Report
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/ ... ine-report

Shell is the main exploiter but they are just part of the US Western alliance.

...on September 13 at the UN Bush met several rulers from West Africa, which collectively supplies about 15 percent of US oil: as much as Saudi Arabia does. They included rulers from Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Sao Tome, who would not normally attract much White House attention. Bush has also announced plans to visit Africa early next year, with a possible stop in Nigeria, the largest oil-producer in sub-Saharan Africa and the fifth-largest exporter of oil to the US.

https://crescent.icit-digital.org/artic ... est-africa

As an Australian I benefit from this no doubt, but when the times comes I trust out leaders will ditch the US and join the BRICS. It will be a much more democratic alignment than the regime in washington. The US calls itself a democracy but it's a kleptocracy through and through.

[Shaved Monkey]

"We bled Africa for four and a half centuries. We looted their raw materials, then we told lies that the Africans are good for nothing. In the name of religion we destroyed their culture. And after being made rich at their expense, we now steal their brains through miseducation and propaganda to prevent them from enacting Black retribution against us."

Jacques Chirac