That risk has been put under the spotlight by the burning car carrier drifting off the Dutch coast. The Dutchcoastguard said the fire’s cause was unknown, but Dutch broadcaster RTL released a recording in which an emergency responder is heard saying “the fire started in the battery of an electric car.”
While all logistics companies deal with the risk of EV lithium-ion batteries burning with twice the energy of a normal fire, the maritime industry hasn’t kept up with the developing technology and how it creates greater risk, maritime officials and insurers said.
Plantagenet wrote:Perhaps freighters that transport EVs should be required to pre-load each EV into its own watertight dumpster and install sea water pumps above each dumpster
Nearly 40 percent of used EVs in the United States are available for less than $30,000, according to Recurrent’s latest market report. The prices of used all-electric vehicles in the United States have gone down 28 percent since July 2022, according to the latest car buying report from Recurrent, with used Tesla prices seeing a decrease of more than 30 percent year-over-year as a consequence of the company reducing new vehicle prices.
Tesla Now Offering 84-Month Financing Term
The interest rate is around 6.39 percent.
theluckycountry wrote:Used EV Prices Continue To Fall, Down 28% Since Last Year
theluckycountry wrote:The rot has set in, must Suck to be Adam B
An EU ruling preventing the ban of internal combustion engines (ICEs) using e-fuels from 2035 has been welcomed by a host of car manufacturers exploring the prospective tech, but labelled as a stalling technique by environmental groups.
Ferrari (NYSE:RACE) and Porsche dubbed the move good news, saying it provided clarity for planning and meant several types of car could be offered, instead of just electric vehicles... The EU had been expected to implement an umbrella ban on the sale of ICE cars from 2035, but pressure from Germany and Italy saw it instead pass a law requiring new cars to be net-zero in terms of carbon emissions. This means cars running on e-fuels...
This week’s government ambivalence over the longstanding 2030 EV sales deadline is potentially “damaging for fleets” who are committed to electrification, says FleetCheck.
Peter Golding, managing director at the leading fleet software provider, FleetCheck, said that prime minister Rishi Sunak’s equivocation when asked about the deadline by an interviewer had set alarm bells ringing across the industry.
theluckycountry wrote:It's like Y2K all over again. Now that everyone has rushed out and bought an EV out of fear of being left out in the cold.......
Yesterday, the Wuling Air EV was launched in Thailand as the cheapest electric vehicle (EV) on sale in ASEAN with a starting price of RM 52k (Malaysian Ringgits) or 11,000 $US. Fully imported (CBU) from Indonesia, Wuling’s Thai distributor EV Primus also announced that it is planning to expand to Malaysia and the Philippines in 2024
theluckycountry wrote:OK. Finally some good news on the EV front. This car makes sense and I can see it as a move in the right direction. No I'm not rabidly anti-EV.
theluckycountry wrote:I believe they have their place, I have just always thought that the brainless American/Euro concept of making them in the image of big sports cars was doomed from the start.
theluckycountry wrote:The perfect little city runaround A 4-seater too.
theluckycountry wrote:Cuts pollution, cheap, and very economical on battery usage I would think.
theluckycountry wrote: Both variants are powered by a 41 PS/110 Nm electric motor mounted on the rear axle with the smaller battery (17.3 kWh) having a 200 km range
theluckycountry wrote:Charging via a 6.6-kW AC charger to hit a full state of charge (SoC) takes 4 hours. That's nearly household currents. 5kW here in Oz.
theluckycountry wrote:starting price of RM 52k (Malaysian Ringgits) or 11,000 $US
Plantagenet wrote:Personally this is exactly what I expected. Every time you examine something closely about EVs, it falls far short of the promises made by the EV boosters.
Plantagenet wrote:tesla-vastly-overstates-its-vehicles-range-
from drivers who are seeing as little as half the range…
mousepad wrote:Plantagenet wrote:tesla-vastly-overstates-its-vehicles-range-
from the article:from drivers who are seeing as little as half the range…
Now that's significant. And the question to ask is if the reduced milage is due to reduced battery capacity, or due to higher kWh per mile.
mousepad wrote:If more energy is used per mile, that opens the door to revisiting all them rosy CO2 calculations.
mousepad wrote: Could it be that driving a small gas car is actually better for the climate than driving a tesla?
To be clear, Tesla did report a profit for 2020, under generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP), marking the company's first full year of profitability. But that profit did not come from the core business of manufacturing cars. Tesla booked a whopping $1.58 billion of revenue from selling regulatory credits last year, more than the previous three years combined. Tesla's net income of $721 million in 2020 turns into a substantial loss if those regulatory credit sales are backed out.
2022
Does Tesla make money?
It took Tesla 17 years to turn a profit when it announced that 2020 was the first full year of profitability in the company’s history. While the company generates substantial revenue from automotive sales and regulatory credits, it took some time to profit due to production costs and supply chain issues.
mousepad wrote:Plantagenet wrote:tesla-vastly-overstates-its-vehicles-range-
from the article:from drivers who are seeing as little as half the range…
Now that's significant. And the question to ask is if the reduced milage is due to reduced battery capacity, or due to higher kWh per mile.
If more energy is used per mile, that opens the door to revisiting all them rosy CO2 calculations. I suspect the actual CO2 footprint of an EV don't look so good anymore compared to gas car. Maybe them leftist liberal university studies claiming better CO2 perfomance of EVs can't be trusted anymore? Could it be that driving a small gas car is actually better for the climate than driving a tesla?
Plantagenet wrote:I've made the point many times before that the claims that EVs will help reduce CO2 emissions look much less credible when you use real world data rather then the phony numbers put out there by EV fanbois.
Plantagenet wrote:Every time I look closely at the EV numbers, I find more phony numbers and another glitch and another major problem that the EV makers are busily lying about in an attempt to cover things up.
AdamB wrote:It does. So it makes the use location significant. Or at least some average annual temperature expectation, including whether or not it is garaged. Optimal temperature for the lithium based batteries is like 78-79F if memory serves, Leaf batteries like mine have been ruined by fast charging in Phoenix year round
mousepad wrote:AdamB wrote:It does. So it makes the use location significant. Or at least some average annual temperature expectation, including whether or not it is garaged. Optimal temperature for the lithium based batteries is like 78-79F if memory serves, Leaf batteries like mine have been ruined by fast charging in Phoenix year round
Yes, I agree. Gone are the days when you could drive from alaska to texas without having to worry about ruining your battery.
theluckycountry wrote:So Adam dunbed in for 3 worthless EV's?
theluckycountry wrote:The LEAF was a waste of time too, as was the Pre-arse, none of them have measured up simply because of the economics and physical characteristics of batteries.
theluckycountry wrote:I love SciFi as much as the next person but I don't let it interfere with my grasp on reality.
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