Ibon wrote:So nature and nurture both play a role and as this thread is courageous enough to address this what kind of a government leadership do you think would be required to translate this into effective policy? One that is uniting or one that incites racial hatred?
Subjectivist wrote:What if instead of focusing on race we focus on what actually matters for a successful life in modern America?
KaiserJeep wrote:Let me say this: After thinking about it, the large accumulated family wealth disparity is associated almost exclusively with discrimination against minorities in housing and land ownership. (If I keep saying that, some of you may actually THINK about what I am saying.)
Trump COULD fix this. Few people understand more about the real estate business than Donald Trump.
I think the chances that he will fix it are slim. But he could.
KaiserJeep wrote:Not at all. I believe that Trump could fix this three ways:
1) The power of the pulpit. If he stands up, identifies a problem with racial discrimination in housing, and demands that it be remedied, who is gonna oppose him? The Democrats? The Black Caucus in Congress? Maxine Waters? Barack Obama?
2) He can campaign on this issue, and win a second term as POTUS, by promising to fix this. Meanwhile, he could pull a boatload of minority votes away from the Democrats.
3) If all else fails, he can sign an Executive Order to end racial discrimination in housing.
Plantagenet wrote:The separation of races we see today is mostly not due to overt racial discrimination, but instead mainly reflects economic sorting due to different levels of family wealth and income. This is pretty simple to understand----when the average black family income is only 58% of the average white family income, white families on average are able to afford bigger houses in better neighborhoods with better schools and lower crime then black families on average, so better neighborhoods with bigger houses and better schools and low crime rates will mainly be populated by well-off white families. Racial discrimination has nothing to do with it. AND, if you look around a little bit, you'll find a few well-off black families living in most or all white neighborhoods in the USA, and a few poor whites living in the poorer mainly black neighborhoods. This confirms that the racial sorting we see today is actually driven by economics---not by racial discrimination.
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KaiserJeep wrote:Anybody want to deny that most Whites don't want Minority neighbors "driving down home values"?
KaiserJeep wrote:That's why the problem exists. The people that are doing the very things that cause Minority oppression are denying what they are doing, don't really believe that they are the crux of the problem, and furthermore denying that a problem even exists.
KaiserJeep wrote:When the second Civil War happens in the USA, you and your attitudes, and millions of other US citizens that share similar opinions, will have been the cause of the conflict.
KaiserJeep wrote:Think about this. When expensive FF energy happens in the USA, the impacts will be different depending upon the economic circumstances of the people touched by the crisis. The 1% won't care at all, other than grumbling about taxes. The affluent Upper Middle and Middle Middle classes (almost all White) will be inconvenienced by less disposable income. The vulnerable Lower Middle and Lower classes will be the first to starve. They won't have anything to lose in the violent race war caused by your attitudes.
KaiserJeep wrote:Now picture an angry Black Grandmother with an assault weapon, hunting for YOU.
KaiserJeep wrote:So you want to further deny your responsibility for the oppression...
KaiserJeep wrote: don't feel like there will ever be any repercussions....That seems really unlikely, 40 million Black people are not vanishing silently in the night.
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