[Plantagenet]

I know that the US started this war

Actually, Russia started the war when it sent its army across the border and invaded Ukraine.

Trying to fight a rising nuclear power like the new Russia is an insane act

I see the Ukrainian fight against much larger Russia to be incredibly brave. But what choice do they have? Ukraine just gained its freedom from the Soviet Empire and they know they have no desire to be conquered and put under the boot of some new Putin Empire.



Cheers!

[theluckycountry]

In reality they would be both wiped out and any pizza you might be able to order would likely be radioactive.

True. I actually hate modern pizza, It's another thing the Western "profit maximizer" has destroyed. When the little Italian shops made them in their stone ovens they were beautiful. Now they come out of conveyor impinger ovens, mass produced garbage. Young people have no idea what a pizza should taste like because they have never eaten one. All they have eaten is cardboard covered in toxic chemicals.

[Plantagenet]

The high crime rates in large US cities have driven business after business to shut their doors and close stores in urban areas.

And far=left politicians and DAs have downsized the police force and refused to prosecute people who shoplift or commit other crimes.

But now the far-left mayor of Chicago has a solution to the problem that his own policies have created.

Chicago is moving to open up government run grocery stores

hicago-mayor-johnson-moves-toward-city-run-grocery-stores

Mayor Johnson of Chicago is an admirer of Huge Chavez and his socialist policies in Venezuela where the state took over the food business. Of course, the store are now mostly empty of food and people in Venezuela are either starving or fleeing the country by the millions, but you can't expect a committed leftist like Mayor Johnson to take notice of things like that.


Typical government-run grocery store in socialist Venezuela. Mayor Johnson of Chicago wants to duplicate this great socialist program in Chicago.

Cheers!

[mousepad]

fleeing the country by the millions!

Finally some good news. Let's hop millions after millions are fleeing back to mexico and africa. I wouldn't mind.

[EnergyUnlimited]

But now the far-left mayor of Chicago has a solution to the problem that his own policies have created.

Chicago is moving to open up government run grocery stores

These are only trade and services and they need some industry as well.
Why not to open few fentanyl labs?

Finally some good news. Let's hop millions after millions are fleeing back to mexico and africa. I wouldn't mind.

Yes, white Americans will flee to Mexico and Africa in quest for a better life.
On the other side of pond Poland, Czechs and Romania is facing increasing influx of British, German and Dutch refugees.
This is not a joke - it actually *does* happen and a scale of this migration is growing every year.
At the moment these refugees are rather wealthy and can sustain themselves though but who knows what might happen later?

Edit:
Forgotten to add one case on Norwegian woman who have run to Poland with her child and applied for asylum.
She was claiming that one of Norwegian government agencies wants to take away her child and give it away for adoption to a couple of homosexuals.
What could we do?
She got asylum and a right to stay.
Don't believe me?
https://www.norwaynews.com/poland-grant ... an-report/

[EnergyUnlimited]

Typical government-run grocery store in socialist Venezuela. Mayor Johnson of Chicago wants to duplicate this great socialist program in Chicago.

Cheers!

I remember similar shops in Poland when I was a kid:

If you wonder what is written on the wall - here is translation:
"Government cares about people".
However these shops had many advantages.
1. Shop assistant had a nice time and would never get tired. There was usually few of them and they had a nice chat and then could go home. No one was bothering them.
2. Customers didn't have a trouble to choose a product to buy. If anything at all was available they were just buying it.
Sometimes they were coming to shop not to buy anything (because nothing was there...) but to chat with a shop assistant.
3. Sometimes everything was simplified by a board announcement hanging on door.
I remember one stating:
"Shop is opened but nothing is there"
or another one:
"delivery of goods is expected tomorrow or the day after"
Sometimes there were a huge ques to these empty shops, just in case if something was delivered for sale.
If so, then first few people could buy something, shop assistant would buy herself and hide some products to later sell on black market with 10-fold profit and rest of people from a queue was still waiting for another day or two in hope to buy something.

[Newfie]

These are well intentioned but futile measures.

As far as I can tell there is no "city" which dies not have its issues, some are just worse than others.

https://www.google.com/search?q=largest ... e&ie=UTF-8

The "best" would seem to be in closed societies (3.g. Japan) where there is a little cultural mix. When you start mixing diverse populations, suprise,, you get cultural grief.

I have slowly been becoming a supporter of a minimum basic income plan. There are a lot of open questions about this notion but it has some merit.

There has been support showing we can and should support this concept going back at least to the 1930'. I would like to see it implement so that people get 3 things:
A minimum wage
Basic but good health care
Free education, for all up through HS. College would be merit based.

There would need to be a lot of adjustment and many details to be worked out. But they are no more difficult than the problems our current system has.

Some caveats, I am not all bleeding heart.
Health care would NOT cover self inflicted injuries and abuses.
Food allowance would be for food, period.
There would still be paid work for those that wanted to do it and compensation scales would need to be worked out.

I don't know how you would do it but it deserves a try.

[EnergyUnlimited]

I have slowly been becoming a supporter of a minimum basic income plan. There are a lot of open questions about this notion but it has some merit.

Prices of fentanyl and tranq will be adjusted accordingly to that.

A minimum wage

...if there are jobs on offer.

Basic but good health care

Easy, but first you have to disassemble your health insurance market and destroy your big pharma cartels and syndicates.
Ozempic(tm) cost in US $1200 -1800 per month of treatment and in Poland $90 per month of treatment - for uninsured.
Insured are getting it for $35 a month.

Free education, for all up through HS. College would be merit based.

This can be done but again - you need to disassemble your educational crime syndicates and bust large proportion of banking sector.

There would need to be a lot of adjustment and many details to be worked out. But they are no more difficult than the problems our current system has.

However it won't be done for a simple reason that it infringes rights of your rulers.

Health care would NOT cover self inflicted injuries and abuses.

So fatties (half of all Americans?), lung cancer victim with history of smoking and few other large groups would need to go off the window.

Food allowance would be for food, period.

These allowances have to be kept, unless you want stores to be looted. However you still cannot prevent diversion - say resale of received food for cash to buy fentanyl.

There would still be paid work for those that wanted to do it and compensation scales would need to be worked out.

What about those who don't want to do it?
Basic income or food & fentanyl benefit?

[theluckycountry]

Map Of 'Zombie Drug' Tsunami Consuming America

New CDC estimates show 111,000 people died from a drug overdose in the 12-month period ending in April. The data shows that the drug epidemic continues ravaging counties and cities nationwide. Fentanyl and other synthetic opioids are responsible for about 70% of the overdoses.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/map-z ... ng-america

Yes it's another zerohedge article, I'm so sad , here is the CDC page I found, it's from 2021 of course, but nearly as bad. When you search for something politically incorrect you always seem to get shunted to an older, more palatable version.
https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/index.html

“meth mouth” Hunter



https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2020/1 ... eth-mouth/

[theluckycountry]

Food allowance would be for food, period.

These allowances have to be kept, unless you want stores to be looted.

But what constitutes "food" over there? soda drinks and potato crisps, twinkies and Pop Tarts?
I ate junk food for dinner last night, I was lazy, I made grilled sausages on rye bread. Normally I'd cook a roast with vegetables, or perhaps a steak or lamb chops, with vegetables. Sometimes an omelet with salad. Lunch is fruit or a salad sandwich.

A mate back in the day went to the USA, 40 years ago, to visit some dudes he met on holiday on the Great Barrier Reef here. They ate takeaway every night and day. He decided to cook a meal for them, a roast in the oven. They couldn't believe it, they though he was a chef! They introduced him to drugs, and homosexuality. When he got back he was so changed I wanted nothing to do with him. Most of us wiped him off, like a dirty rag.

I realize most of the Americans on this forum are not like that, they are the ones that can read and write.

[noobtube]

I have slowly been becoming a supporter of a minimum basic income plan. There are a lot of open questions about this notion but it has some merit.

Prices of fentanyl and tranq will be adjusted accordingly to that.

A minimum wage

...if there are jobs on offer.

Basic but good health care

Easy, but first you have to disassemble your health insurance market and destroy your big pharma cartels and syndicates.
Ozempic(tm) cost in US $1200 -1800 per month of treatment and in Poland $90 per month of treatment - for uninsured.
Insured are getting it for $35 a month.

Free education, for all up through HS. College would be merit based.

This can be done but again - you need to disassemble your educational crime syndicates and bust large proportion of banking sector.

There would need to be a lot of adjustment and many details to be worked out. But they are no more difficult than the problems our current system has.

However it won't be done for a simple reason that it infringes rights of your rulers.

Health care would NOT cover self inflicted injuries and abuses.

So fatties (half of all Americans?), lung cancer victim with history of smoking and few other large groups would need to go off the window.

Food allowance would be for food, period.

These allowances have to be kept, unless you want stores to be looted. However you still cannot prevent diversion - say resale of received food for cash to buy fentanyl.

There would still be paid work for those that wanted to do it and compensation scales would need to be worked out.

What about those who don't want to do it?
Basic income or food & fentanyl benefit?

You have quite the sense of humor. In America, you'd probably make it big as a political satirist.

Your ability to see the absurdity of America, and say it in such plain language, is on the level of George Carlin.

“meth mouth” Hunter



https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2020/1 ... eth-mouth/

Wow! That explains a few things.

[theluckycountry]

old news, from the hacked laptop. Of course you'll never see it on TV, and all the mainstream media outlets are shilling that it's fake, a Russian disinformation campaign Bush was a druggo, that came to light, and Obama too, plus he engaged in homosexual activity. Americans believe what they want to believe and it seems they want to believe only blacks and down and outs take drugs. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

There is 'clearly' a growing segment of America that want change, and looking back in hindsight that was what Trump was, the image of possible change. As long as he or someone like him is out there these millions of fed up people will keep believing in the political process. It's so sad, really, that such a con could be believed, that they could rally behind an arrogant womanizing Billionaire and believe he had any agenda other than his own ego and personal enrichment. Where are the statesmen that used to be elected to high office? Trump was in a lot of financial trouble before the campaign, but the banks came and bailed him out. He works for them, and big pharma, and the military industrial complex. They all do. When you've learned to accept that as a fact, you've learned a real Bene Gesserit lesson.

[EnergyUnlimited]

You have quite the sense of humor. In America, you'd probably make it big as a political satirist.

Your ability to see the absurdity of America, and say it in such plain language, is on the level of George Carlin.

It is often easier for outside observer to identify problems of a given society.
From a distance it is easier to spot issues that really matter and yet keep yourself clear of emotional involvement or political and financial interests as they are none.

I have some feedback from US because I have friends and family there.
Also if you want to understand from where troubles to your country are coming (in my case to Poland) you need to have a broad view on larger entities and power structures where your country belongs to.
So it is important to understand what's going on in America because it is a top dog of civilization known as West.

I am looking with dismay and disbelief on how America or Western Europe are willfully screwing themself up.
It just looks like hundreds millions of people got caught in a sort of suicide frenzy.

It seems that individual humans at least sometimes are intelligent but whole nations are acting like cretins.

This is not only applicable to America but for example to China as well:
Fears about too many people ----> 1 child policy enforced ----> Loads of OAP-s and very few kids ----> beginning of collapse of working age population ----> ghost cities built -----> panic -----> cretinic 1 child policy scraped -----> Now they begin to threaten women that without at least 2 kids by age of 30 they may not be promoted in ranks of party or corporations or face other consequences.

For me it was obvious 30 years ago where this 1 child lunacy will lead (because no other outcome short of possible revolution was really possible even in theory) but they had to learn it a hard way.
Societies are tending to be irrational.

[theluckycountry]

I am looking with dismay and disbelief on how America or Western Europe are willfully screwing themself up.
It just looks like hundreds of millions of people got caught in a sort of suicide frenzy.

Some things are obvious, long before they occur.

After Muslim riots in Sweden, Swedish PM says integration has failed, immigrants fuel gang crime

“Segregation has gone so far that we have parallel societies in Sweden. We live in the same country, but different realities,” states Magdalena Andersson

In Sweden, the gang war for control of the arms and drug trade has been going on for years, and Sweden is no stranger to violence from its growing migrant population. The country experienced a record number of shootings and murders in 2022, leading the country to be labeled “the most dangerous country in Europe.”

According to the Swedish police, 90 bombings and 101 attempted bombings were recorded in 2022. As of Aug. 15, 2023, 109 bombings have been recorded in the country this year.

https://rmx.news/sweden/sweden-hit-with ... g-warfare/

And they can blame it all on a progressive government led by women.

European Elites' Dream Of Power Crumbles As Security Threats From Russia, Africa, & The Mid-East Grow
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -east-grow

The only security is in Eastern Europe now. In countries that rejected the waves of immigrants, ones full of grain, close to Russian energy







While you were sailing the world Greta, someone stole your country, your future.

[mousepad]

For me it was obvious 30 years ago where this 1 child lunacy will lead

China has a history of bad famines, every 10 years or so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines_in_China

It's not a bad move to try to limit your population if you're starved for food. They couldn't anticipate the humongous economic growth they would experience in the 2000.
I wish the West would be smart enough to take its natural population decline and embrace it. But hell now, growth it must be at all costs. So let's import 3rd world to the breaking point of destroying our own social fabric and identity, an on top of that let's bend over backwards to the imports. The West is such an amazing clusterfuck I would laugh my ass off if I wasn't part of it and have to suffer the consequences of the lunacy.

[EnergyUnlimited]

They couldn't anticipate the humongous economic growth they would experience in the 2000.

They have introduced this policy at the time when their fertility rate was already falling down fast.
Also it was introduced at the time when they have set economy on fast track of growth during Deng Xiaoping administration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy
So they should expect what they got.
Well deserved.

Famines in China were often a result of lunatic political adventures like Great Leap and a Great War on Sparrows which have lead to up to 55 millions of deaths during commander Mao rule:
https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-h ... on-people/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

I wish the West would be smart enough to take its natural population decline and embrace it. But hell now, growth it must be at all costs. So let's import 3rd world to the breaking point of destroying our own social fabric and identity, an on top of that let's bend over backwards to the imports. The West is such an amazing clusterfuck I would laugh my ass off if I wasn't part of it and have to suffer the consequences of the lunacy.

You may on may not be laughing but President Mendoza in 2050 surely will.
Calif of Britistan will have a laugh as well.

[mousepad]

Calif of Britistan will have a laugh as well.

Yes. Crazy. The brits went from ruling the world to being conquered by 3rd world all within 100 years. Crazy.
If you told this at a royal dinner party in 1860 in London, nobody would have believed.
Yet even more crazy, todays libtards don't believe it either, all the while their nations is removed from under their feet.

[noobtube]

I am looking with dismay and disbelief on how America or Western Europe are willfully screwing themself up.
It just looks like hundreds millions of people got caught in a sort of suicide frenzy.

It seems that individual humans at least sometimes are intelligent but whole nations are acting like cretins.

The United States government has been dirty its whole existence. But, as you said earlier, Washington is now at the point where there are no more resources to steal nor countries to invade.

The world has seen through the facade of American exceptionalism, the way it did with the British empire.

I suppose it is a feature of dying empires that its subjects are the last to see the inevitable end.

[noobtube]

old news, from the hacked laptop. Of course you'll never see it on TV, and all the mainstream media outlets are shilling that it's fake, a Russian disinformation campaign Bush was a druggo, that came to light, and Obama too, plus he engaged in homosexual activity. Americans believe what they want to believe and it seems they want to believe only blacks and down and outs take drugs. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

There is 'clearly' a growing segment of America that want change, and looking back in hindsight that was what Trump was, the image of possible change. As long as he or someone like him is out there these millions of fed up people will keep believing in the political process. It's so sad, really, that such a con could be believed, that they could rally behind an arrogant womanizing Billionaire and believe he had any agenda other than his own ego and personal enrichment. Where are the statesmen that used to be elected to high office? Trump was in a lot of financial trouble before the campaign, but the banks came and bailed him out. He works for them, and big pharma, and the military industrial complex. They all do. When you've learned to accept that as a fact, you've learned a real Bene Gesserit lesson.

The last chance for America was in the 1960s. The country had the wealth, the weapons, and was a world superpower. It had energy, materials, and industry.

The country used to make stuff people wanted. Now, the United States is nothing but a country of agents, brokers, consultants, flippers, influencers, landlords, lawyers, salesmen, speculators, and government employees... middlemen, con-men, and g-men.

People want change but have no idea what that means nor how to get there. They want a little change, not the major disruptions that are needed to fix this mess.

[theluckycountry]

The country used to make stuff people wanted. Now, the United States is nothing but a country of agents, brokers...

People want change but have no idea what that means nor how to get there. They want a little change, not the major disruptions that are needed to fix this mess.

Yes, well they are all in it up to their necks, their leaders are not to blame, they voted them in and they wanted all this mess, they just didn't realize at the time where the lax morals and greed was leading. Nothing can be fixed, not unless you have a time machine. This idea of being able to go back is the biggest delusion of all Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it, and they are repeating the same efforts of every empire that ever ruled across the world.

Singapore has a good government, the vast majority of the people are happy and prospering but a small minority don't like the idea that it's a form of dictatorship. If they had their way the government would be overturned, so that a true multi party system could evolve. Then the global corporations would be in there bribing and manipulating and within a few decades it would be like all the other exploited nations.