[Newfie]

Calif of Britistan will have a laugh as well.

Yes. Crazy. The brits went from ruling the world to being conquered by 3rd world all within 100 years. Crazy.
If you told this at a royal dinner party in 1860 in London, nobody would have believed.
Yet even more crazy, todays libtards don't believe it either, all the while their nations is removed from under their feet.

That is one way to view it.

Another way is to assume they simply transfered control to thr Americans, father to son sort of.

[theluckycountry]

Before Britain was Spain. Spanish-Portuguese control of the world total, they ruled the seas and S-America and elsewhere. Britain overcame them by better technology, fleeter ships, and because Spain was essentially bankrupt. Then Britain lost due to outdated technology and went bankrupt, now the US is going bankrupt and Russia is leading the way in new military technologies. Trouble is America is the last 'Christian' empire (almost) and after her there are no rules. No ten commandments, no courts of law based on justice and innocent till proven guilty. all basically biblical ideas.

The Chinese used to skin people alive, the Japanese boiled them alive, and the Muslims, well they'll cut your balls off and stuff them down your throat, and that's on a good day. Sure, they don't do any of this today, but I believe that's just because they have to perform to Western standards to get along. No one would trade with a country that endorsed such evil, but left to their own devices...

There is one major power though that is still christian by historical standards, that would not revert to barbarism if left in charge. And it has great wealth and No Debt.

[theluckycountry]

Residents Voice Blunt Opposition To State's Migrant Housing Initiative

Earlier this month, Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey declared a state of emergency in response to the surging number of migrants in state-managed shelters. Then, last week, the governor mobilized the National Guard to assist with the migrant crisis. Now, residents are outraged with the governor's decision to house the migrants as Biden's southern border crisis spreads nationwide.

Local newspaper The Bourne Enterprise reports anger spreads across the Cape Cod peninsula as "residents turned out in force to express opposition to the state's opting to provide temporary housing for migrant families who have been relocated to Massachusetts."

https://www.capenews.net/bourne/news/re ... e4c2d.html

The United States of Sweden? I know these immigrants from Honduras and mexico et al are not Muslim, but do they integrate into American society? Or do they settle into enclaves of their own and reject American values.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-09- ... lony-texas

[EnergyUnlimited]

Before Britain was Spain. Spanish-Portuguese control of the world total, they ruled the seas and S-America and elsewhere. Britain overcame them by better technology, fleeter ships, and because Spain was essentially bankrupt. Then Britain lost due to outdated technology and went bankrupt, now the US is going bankrupt and Russia is leading the way in new military technologies. Trouble is America is the last 'Christian' empire (almost) and after her there are no rules. No ten commandments, no courts of law based on justice and innocent till proven guilty. all basically biblical ideas.

IMO China rather than Russia will be a military (and all other) tech leader.
America is no longer Christian empire, it is currently controlled largely by perverts from rainbow party and few Jews sitting in banks and corpo.
It has chance to turn Christian again once Latinos have outbred Whites and taken over government structures.

The Chinese used to skin people alive, the Japanese boiled them alive, and the Muslims, well they'll cut your balls off and stuff them down your throat, and that's on a good day. Sure, they don't do any of this today, but I believe that's just because they have to perform to Western standards to get along. No one would trade with a country that endorsed such evil, but left to their own devices...

Romans were crucifying.
English were hanging, drawing and quartering
Most of continental Europeans were burning alive and skinning alive was also known.
Poles and Turks were impaling.
Russians were skinning alive even at the beginning of XX century, it was known as "wearing uniform".
Arabs are chopping of hands (for theft) even now and Western nations are still dealing happily with them.

There is one major power though that is still christian by historical standards, that would not revert to barbarism if left in charge. And it has great wealth and No Debt.

You are idealizing Russians.
1. They are Christian on paper mainly (like RINOS in US - Republicans in name only).
2. Largest rate of abortions on entire world. In some years more abortions than live births.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
3. Not a single nation but empire of 50-60 nations where Slavs are nominally majority (80%) but most of these Slavs are mongrels mixed with Muslim and Far Eastern nations. There are 25 millions of Muslims in Russia (18%)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia
4. Drunkardness and drug addiction taken together is a bigger problem than US have with it and on par with Hungary it is most alcoholic nation on world - what translates into African level life expectancy of Russian males.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
5. General poor health and poverty.
6. Declining population (TFR of 1.5). With such TFR they are not sustainable within 2 - 3 generations - too much land and too few people.
https://database.earth/population/fertility-rate/2022
Another issue is that Slavic population in Russia has much lower TFR than their Muslims.

Russia is not an alternative for West.
Russia is going down a drain together with West.

[EnergyUnlimited]

The United States of Sweden? I know these immigrants from Honduras and mexico et al are not Muslim, but do they integrate into American society? Or do they settle into enclaves of their own and reject American values.

Mexicans and other Latinos are actually integrating quite well and are gradually replacing Whites in US due to their higher TFR.

They will provide a sort of continuation for US, where Whites are gradually phased out and they are phased in.
They are likely to preserve at least moderately advanced society and perhaps deal with issues related to feminism, gender perverts and similar - by rooting them out.
They are dedicated Christians too but nearly uniformly Catholic.
Though if allowed to come fast in large numbers like now then further destabilization is guaranteed - if given nothing useful to do criminal activity will result as it is observed now.

[noobtube]

There is one major power though that is still christian by historical standards, that would not revert to barbarism if left in charge. And it has great wealth and No Debt.

You are idealizing Russians.
1. They are Christian on paper mainly (like RINOS in US - Republicans in name only).
2. Largest rate of abortions on entire world. In some years more abortions than live births.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
3. Not a single nation but empire of 50-60 nations where Slavs are nominally majority (80%) but most of these Slavs are mongrels mixed with Muslim and Far Eastern nations. There are 25 millions of Muslims in Russia (18%)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia
4. Drunkardness and drug addiction taken together is a bigger problem than US have with it and on par with Hungary it is most alcoholic nation on world - what translates into African level life expectancy of Russian males.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
5. General poor health and poverty.
6. Declining population (TFR of 1.5). With such TFR they are not sustainable within 2 - 3 generations - too much land and too few people.
https://database.earth/population/fertility-rate/2022
Another issue is that Slavic population in Russia has much lower TFR than their Muslims.

Russia is not an alternative for West.
Russia is going down a drain together with West.

Good to know.

The United States of Sweden? I know these immigrants from Honduras and mexico et al are not Muslim, but do they integrate into American society? Or do they settle into enclaves of their own and reject American values.

Mexicans and other Latinos are actually integrating quite well and are gradually replacing Whites in US due to their higher TFR.

They will provide a sort of continuation for US, where Whites are gradually phased out and they are phased in.
They are likely to preserve at least moderately advanced society and perhaps deal with issues related to feminism, gender perverts and similar - by rooting them out.
They are dedicated Christians too but nearly uniformly Catholic.
Though if allowed to come fast in large numbers like now then further destabilization is guaranteed - if given nothing useful to do criminal activity will result as it is observed now.

Mexicans/Latinos are like every other immigrant.
1st generation. They head straight for the cities. They undermine wages. They love the government. They are suspicious of Americans. They identify with their home country. They bring crime. They also do most of the "shit" work.

2nd generation. They love the culture. They are ashamed of their parents. They try to be super-American (all the positive stereotypes). They either shout America First the loudest (Republican). Or, they shout Equality for Everyone (Democrat). They hate who the United States hates, including their own kind. This generation are the first to get the "good" jobs. Sitting on your ass all day getting a paycheck.

3rd generation. They are a fat, lazy, entitled, selfish slob who thinks the world owes them the good life. Now, they are truly a citizen of the United States. They can now be a paid leech (landlord, investor, flipper, speculator, etc.).

There are exceptions such as the immigrant Elon Musk. The government in Washington used him to create the phony electric car company Tesla after his phony internet payment scam Paypal. Elon Musk is a product of Obama (whose father was a foreigner).

And, Religion is meaningless in America. When you have the amount of land, resources, and security of this country, you can give yourself permission to do whatever you please, no matter what Religion you claim to follow.

Mexicans/Latinos are no different. They will drop that Religious stuff in the 2nd generation (don't want to be like their parents).

Having said all that, it seems I am agreeing with your analysis of what is happening.

[EnergyUnlimited]

Mexicans/Latinos are like every other immigrant.
1st generation. They head straight for the cities. They undermine wages. They love the government. They are suspicious of Americans. They identify with their home country. They bring crime. They also do most of the "shit" work.

2nd generation. They love the culture. They are ashamed of their parents. They try to be super-American (all the positive stereotypes). They either shout America First the loudest (Republican). Or, they shout Equality for Everyone (Democrat). They hate who the United States hates, including their own kind. This generation are the first to get the "good" jobs. Sitting on your ass all day getting a paycheck.

3rd generation. They are a fat, lazy, entitled, selfish slob who thinks the world owes them the good life. Now, they are truly a citizen of the United States. They can now be a paid leech (landlord, investor, flipper, speculator, etc.).

These are perfect migrants anyone would pray to get but unfortunately Brits are not as lucky with their Muslim migrants as Americans are with Latinos.
You should be really grateful that they are like you describe.
Here is what Brits have to contend with (and I was living there for over 10 years to see it):

1st generation is either working hard doing unrewarding jobs (applicable to early comers up to mid XX century - mostly historic record) or directly go to cities and join all sort of criminal activities, gangs and islamic groups, sometimes with terrorist connections.

2nd generation realizes that white Brits are stupid and toothless cowards who lack any willpower and resolve - so they extend their criminal activities to form pedophilia gangs, grooming gangs (call it pedophilia-light), large scale drug and prostitution operations, illegal gun trade, terrorist groups associated with islamic extremism etc.
They love to carry out robberies at knife point, throw sulfuric acid on white women and in very few cases those most successful and law obedient will open a kebab shop.
Of course they never run honest record or pay due taxes.

3rd generation is fully convinced that Britain is an utter shithole inhabited by hopeless and defiled infidels not worth to talk to who are on their way out anyway. They are becoming community leaders in their ghettos which are spreading like cancer and consume whole cities as time pass.
They are disgusted with everything what is British rather than Muslim, they consider white non-Muslim women to be rags to use and dispose, they are building mosques, forcing British authorities to recognize their Shariah courts and becoming missionaries of islam (and many whites are already converting, perhaps tacitly knowing who will be a winner).
Interestingly they are also succeeding in taking over British health service. White doctor in hospital there is now a rarity and once you visit hospital you feel like you just traveled to Pakistan.
Several years ago they have won a right to register few wives married in Pakistan or other islamic state.
So Brits will not allow for a Paki to marry few women in Britain, but he may go to Pakistan to marry them there and then bring back to Britain and all these wives will be registered as such under UK law.
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/intervi ... ves-121789
They want to make Britain looking like countries from where they came - and they are succeeding in it.

[theluckycountry]

All good points in your posts EnergyUnlimited, I learned a few things there and won't dispute you, you've done your homework. It's hard not to be very detached down here in Oz, hard to take things up there seriously.

[EnergyUnlimited]

All good points in your posts EnergyUnlimited, I learned a few things there and won't dispute you, you've done your homework. It's hard not to be very detached down here in Oz, hard to take things up there seriously.

It is very nice to have this comfort to be detached.
If you are looking on a clusterfuck West became, then Australia may sail through a bottleneck quite well.
Uniform nation, palatable minorities (Chinese, Indian, Philippinos, Vietnamese) effective dealing with unwanted migrants (Nauru camp). You are out of harm way in case of war, you enjoy low population density etc.
And you have the youngest woman who have sailed around a world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Watson
Yes, as long as you don't goof it up with some progressive social lunacy Australia has a bright future and NZ too.

[noobtube]

Mexicans/Latinos are like every other immigrant.
1st generation. They head straight for the cities. They undermine wages. They love the government. They are suspicious of Americans. They identify with their home country. They bring crime. They also do most of the "shit" work.

2nd generation. They love the culture. They are ashamed of their parents. They try to be super-American (all the positive stereotypes). They either shout America First the loudest (Republican). Or, they shout Equality for Everyone (Democrat). They hate who the United States hates, including their own kind. This generation are the first to get the "good" jobs. Sitting on your ass all day getting a paycheck.

3rd generation. They are a fat, lazy, entitled, selfish slob who thinks the world owes them the good life. Now, they are truly a citizen of the United States. They can now be a paid leech (landlord, investor, flipper, speculator, etc.).

These are perfect migrants anyone would pray to get but unfortunately Brits are not as lucky with their Muslim migrants as Americans are with Latinos.
You should be really grateful that they are like you describe.
Here is what Brits have to contend with (and I was living there for over 10 years to see it):

1st generation is either working hard doing unrewarding jobs (applicable to early comers up to mid XX century - mostly historic record) or directly go to cities and join all sort of criminal activities, gangs and islamic groups, sometimes with terrorist connections.

2nd generation realizes that white Brits are stupid and toothless cowards who lack any willpower and resolve - so they extend their criminal activities to form pedophilia gangs, grooming gangs (call it pedophilia-light), large scale drug and prostitution operations, illegal gun trade, terrorist groups associated with islamic extremism etc.
They love to carry out robberies at knife point, throw sulfuric acid on white women and in very few cases those most successful and law obedient will open a kebab shop.
Of course they never run honest record or pay due taxes.

3rd generation is fully convinced that Britain is an utter shithole inhabited by hopeless and defiled infidels not worth to talk to who are on their way out anyway. They are becoming community leaders in their ghettos which are spreading like cancer and consume whole cities as time pass.
They are disgusted with everything what is British rather than Muslim, they consider white non-Muslim women to be rags to use and dispose, they are building mosques, forcing British authorities to recognize their Shariah courts and becoming missionaries of islam (and many whites are already converting, perhaps tacitly knowing who will be a winner).
Interestingly they are also succeeding in taking over British health service. White doctor in hospital there is now a rarity and once you visit hospital you feel like you just traveled to Pakistan.
Several years ago they have won a right to register few wives married in Pakistan or other islamic state.
So Brits will not allow for a Paki to marry few women in Britain, but he may go to Pakistan to marry them there and then bring back to Britain and all these wives will be registered as such under UK law.
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/intervi ... ves-121789
They want to make Britain looking like countries from where they came - and they are succeeding in it.

Well, that is eye-opening. Never knew it was like that.

For America, it is not Islam, it is Zionism. They have turned the nation into a servant of Israel. You can't say anything about them without getting attacked from every direction.

It is weird because Israel has no natural resources, no oil, no gold, no food, nothing that America needs. It is mind-boggling why the United States tolerates their antics.

[EnergyUnlimited]

For America, it is not Islam, it is Zionism. They have turned the nation into a servant of Israel. You can't say anything about them without getting attacked from every direction.

It is weird because Israel has no natural resources, no oil, no gold, no food, nothing that America needs. It is mind-boggling why the United States tolerates their antics.

You should look on it from reverse perspective and realize who is a metropole and who got colonized.
America has loads of resources that Israel needs.
Israel does not have these resources so they have to secure them from somewhere and it happened to be America.
They have filled sufficient proportion of most senior positions in American banking, commerce, industry, media, entertainment and government either by Jews or by naive Noahides stuffed up with Bible silliness and now they can get from America everything what they need.
There are still some prominent Americans who would like to resist it but they are in minority.
I am commonly observing American government acting in a way to promote Israeli interests at the expense of American interests.

But it is not a common Jew which might be your neighbor who is to be blamed for this sad state of affairs.
They have nurtured certain elites which invaded key positions in business, media and government and are screwing up in comparable manner you as well as another Jews.
These elites will do anything imaginable to stay in power.
They will cooperate with anyone including Nazi Germans during WW II - in this case they were cooperating to exterminate other Jews.
And if someone is going to accuse me of anti-Semitic brain disease he should first read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Rumkowski
and this:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/king-chai ... n-exhibit/
and this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_co ... zi_Germany

[Plantagenet]

...Zionism... Israel.....Israel ....

....Israel ....Israel ..... Jews .....Israeli interests .... common Jew .....Jews....Jews....

Would you two anti-semitic loons please start your own thread and post your anti-semitic nonsense there rather then de-railing unrelated threads with this drivel?

Thank you.

[noobtube]

This "street crime" nonsense is just a useful distraction for "da Jews" to distract Americans. So-called "crime" is not in the top 10 of concerns in the United States. Yet, the Israel-controlled media is always screaming about it, to keep you from seeing what they are doing to the country.

...Zionism... Israel.....Israel ....

....Israel ....Israel ..... Jews .....Israeli interests .... common Jew .....Jews....Jews....

Would you two anti-semitic loons please start your own thread and post your anti-semitic nonsense there rather then de-railing unrelated threads with this drivel?

Thank you.

This is exactly what I'm talking about in the United States. As soon as you call out the Zionists/Israel, their agents come to attack. It is so predictable.

You should look on it from reverse perspective and realize who is a metropole and who got colonized.
America has loads of resources that Israel needs.
Israel does not have these resources so they have to secure them from somewhere and it happened to be America.

Great point! Sometimes you have to look at a problem from the other side.

They have filled sufficient proportion of most senior positions in American banking, commerce, industry, media, entertainment and government either by Jews or by naive Noahides stuffed up with Bible silliness and now they can get from America everything what they need.
There are still some prominent Americans who would like to resist it but they are in minority.
I am commonly observing American government acting in a way to promote Israeli interests at the expense of American interests.

The Zionist/Israeli control of the United States is insidious. They control the message, the media, the movements. They tell you who to hate/love/worship/defend/attack. From Washington to Hollywood, Israel controls the agenda.

But it is not a common Jew which might be your neighbor who is to be blamed for this sad state of affairs.
They have nurtured certain elites which invaded key positions in business, media and government and are screwing up in comparable manner you as well as another Jews.
These elites will do anything imaginable to stay in power.
They will cooperate with anyone including Nazi Germans during WW II - in this case they were cooperating to exterminate other Jews.
And if someone is going to accuse me of anti-Semitic brain disease he should first read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Rumkowski
and this:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/king-chai ... n-exhibit/
and this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_co ... zi_Germany

I had to learn the hard way how organized and mobilized they are. From children, they are taught the symbols, signs, and secrets to maintain power over America. Only through personal experience, forums, and bits and pieces from here and there have I discovered how deep their control is.

For instance, the average Jew knows what food to buy in the grocery store... from the child to the adult. Probably 99% of Americans have no idea that their Oreo cookies, potato chips, peanut butter, and bread had to pay a tax to Israel. Half the food in my kitchen has this hidden tax. Basically, every supermarket/grocery store is a Zionist food shop. The Jews know this but they will never tell an American.

But, "da Jews" will scream about "street crime" (or the homeless, or the drug users, or women's rights, etc.) to keep your attention elsewhere.

[EnergyUnlimited]

This is exactly what I'm talking about in the United States. As soon as you call out the Zionists/Israel, their agents come to attack. It is so predictable.

Most likely Plant is an example of Noahide frightened that complaining about Israel or Jews will result in Yahweh wrath and cause destruction to whole United States because server of this site is located there.

And you know - Yahweh is not a joke - read in Bible what he could do.
Here it is:

15
Whoever is captured will be thrust through;
all who are caught will fall by the sword.
16
Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;
their houses will be looted and their wives violated.

So all American Noahides are scared. They don't want Yahweh to loot their home, rape wife and dash to pieces their babies, all in front of their eyes.
Hence they are diligently worshiping Yahweh and his earthly rep - Jew The Savior.

Problem is that most of Americans are not Noahides and they still have to suffer because of such stupidities.

For instance, the average Jew knows what food to buy in the grocery store... from the child to the adult. Probably 99% of Americans have no idea that their Oreo cookies, potato chips, peanut butter, and bread had to pay a tax to Israel. Half the food in my kitchen has this hidden tax. Basically, every supermarket/grocery store is a Zionist food shop. The Jews know this but they will never tell an American.

Jews and Muslims have comparable systems in place.
Muslims are calling it halal food and for Jews it is kosher food.
In both cases their religious guru (mullah or rabbi) has to certify everyday food as halal or kosher and this certified food is more expensive than normal one. They are doing some religious wizardry around it and as a result it becomes edible for believers.
In shops such food is marked in a certain way so they can recognize it.
You can also buy it unknowingly and pay their taxes by doing so.
So every religious Muslim or Jew is only allowed to eat such food and yes - taxes from it are going to their spiritual leaders.
But realistically most of Jews and Muslims are not very diligent about it.

But, "da Jews" will scream about "street crime" (or the homeless, or the drug users, or women's rights, etc.) to keep your attention elsewhere.

Jews are not a source of all evil on world but they have simply taken over US (and many other nations on rotary basis) and are milking available resources to their own advantage.
They are pretty good in it but they can only act in such fashion if morals and ethics of host nation are already failing.
Healthy nations are resistant to it and not affected.
West had large Jewish population for last 1000+ years and was coping very well. Most of the time these Jews were palatable and were contributing in different ways to European and later also American societies.
There were pogroms of Jews from time to time mostly due to religious nonsense but it was all working somehow.
In Poland before WW II we had few millions of Jews and they were behaving well, though Germans during occupation of Poland have murdered 98+% of them in a way how Yahweh would do himself (general genocide of all).

So why now West is universally failing across Europe and US?
Yes, Jews are profiting from collapse of West but IMO there are far more causes of West's demise than just Jews alone.

Jews are everywhere.

Here are Chinese Jews:



...and Japanese Jews:




...and black Jews:



And yet only West is crumbling.
What's wrong with West?

[noobtube]

This is exactly what I'm talking about in the United States. As soon as you call out the Zionists/Israel, their agents come to attack. It is so predictable.

Most likely Plant is an example of Noahide frightened that complaining about Israel or Jews will result in Yahweh wrath and cause destruction to whole United States because server of this site is located there.

You keep reminding me that the United States is filled with nutjobs.

So all American Noahides are scared. They don't want Yahweh to loot their home, rape wife and dash to pieces their babies, all in front of their eyes.
Hence they are diligently worshiping Yahweh and his earthly rep - Jew The Savior.

Problem is that most of Americans are not Noahides and they still have to suffer because of such stupidities.

They are so good at seeming normal until they explode on you. Former Vice-President Mike Pence was one of those Christian crazies, I believe.

Jews and Muslims have comparable systems in place.
Muslims are calling it halal food and for Jews it is kosher food.
In both cases their religious guru (mullah or rabbi) has to certify everyday food as halal or kosher and this certified food is more expensive than normal one. They are doing some religious wizardry around it and as a result it becomes edible for believers.
In shops such food is marked in a certain way so they can recognize it.
You can also buy it unknowingly and pay their taxes by doing so.
So every religious Muslim or Jew is only allowed to eat such food and yes - taxes from it are going to their spiritual leaders.
But realistically most of Jews and Muslims are not very diligent about it.

There are small kosher sections in the local grocery stores, besides their own markets. The Mooslams have their own markets and shops. But, what I am talking about is FAR more deceptive and widespread.

All corporate supermarkets nationwide are captured by this kosher cartel. Hundreds of millions of Americans are consuming food they had no idea went to support this Israeli agenda. The only way you avoid this is if you buy foods they don't eat, or buy only fresh foods that don't go through the large-scale supply chains. I may start doing that in the future. It will force me to retire from the American (really Jewish) diet.

But, "da Jews" will scream about "street crime" (or the homeless, or the drug users, or women's rights, etc.) to keep your attention elsewhere.

Jews are not a source of all evil on world but they have simply taken over US (and many other nations on rotary basis) and are milking available resources to their own advantage.
They are pretty good in it but they can only act in such fashion if morals and ethics of host nation are already failing.
Healthy nations are resistant to it and not affected.
West had large Jewish population for last 1000+ years and was coping very well. Most of the time these Jews were palatable and were contributing in different ways to European and later also American societies.
There were pogroms of Jews from time to time mostly due to religious nonsense but it was all working somehow.
In Poland before WW II we had few millions of Jews and they were behaving well, though Germans during occupation of Poland have murdered 98+% of them in a way how Yahweh would do himself (general genocide of all).

So why now West is universally failing across Europe and US?
Yes, Jews are profiting from collapse of West but IMO there are far more causes of West's demise than just Jews alone.

Jews are everywhere.

Here are Chinese Jews:



...and Japanese Jews:




...and black Jews:



And yet only West is crumbling.
What's wrong with West?

I agree there are many reasons for the West crumbling. But, "da Joos" are not helping the situation.

And, when I mean "da Joos", that means those who are constantly using "da Holocost" and screaming "anti-semitism" whenever they don't get their way.

I don't think Chinese or Japanese or Africans do any of that. Only a very specific group engages in that perpetual victimhood and it irritates me to no end.

And, I think the West is crumbling because the abundant energy is at an end. The West was always built on the model of infinite growth.

And, to bring it back around, cities have always provided the most production for any given unit of energy for a given population. That is one reason I think the rural areas have been dying in America for so many decades.

[theluckycountry]

Back onto the topic of Death of Cities, It's interesting how when economic pressures and natural resource pressures get great enough nations go to extremes to keep feeding the appetite (needs) of the cities they have created; almost as though they were living entities. It's a phenomena unique to "City States"

Survivors of Sonderkommando 1005 posing next to a bone-crushing machine at the site of the Janowska concentration camp.

A bone crushing machine? That's a new one to me. Fertilizer?

[EnergyUnlimited]

Back onto the topic of Death of Cities, It's interesting how when economic pressures and natural resource pressures get great enough nations go to extremes to keep feeding the appetite (needs) of the cities they have created; almost as though they were living entities. It's a phenomena unique to "City States"

Cities and countryside are dying in their own separate ways. Dynamic of it is different. Countryside is initially dying off fast but then stabilizes. Cities are dying slower but a process is going more or less to completion and final stages of collapse may often look quite apocalyptic - fast abandonment by large numbers of people.
In technological civilization process of city collapse will get momentum once necessary materials to keep on with maintenance of tall structures are too expensive to buy in quantities required and a cliff is at the point where electric grid and plumbing system cannot be adequately serviced any more. These are obviously trivial observations
I suspect that this collapse at one point may take a spectacular turn on the West.

Survivors of Sonderkommando 1005 posing next to a bone-crushing machine at the site of the Janowska concentration camp.

A bone crushing machine? That's a new one to me. Fertilizer?

Germans were making some use of bodies of Jews killed in concentration camps.
So golden teeth were always pulled out for scrap metal, bones were crushed and remains dispersed in rivers or buried.
Hair was reclaimed to make mattresses.
There are rumors about fertilizer, soap and glycerin (and then nitroglycerin) produced from human bodies out there but there is no solid evidence for it.

There were essentially 2 types of camps:
1. Labor camps with survival rate around 50-60% - for Poles, German criminals and arrested Westerners. Essentially those of good health were usually surviving unless they have done something stupid or German guards had a bad day.
2. Extermination camps - for Jews, Gypsies and few other minor groups classified by German authorities as undesirables - with survival rate few % and those who survived did so only because Russians (Soviets) liberated them timely before Germans killed them.

It should be noted that Brits and Americans declined to bomb these camps regardless of explicit knowledge what is going on there. They were in aircraft range and bombing overnight would allow large scale escapes amid ensuing panic.

I agree there are many reasons for the West crumbling.

As an access to cheap energy diminishes, climate change bites and many resources are becoming scarce most of nations are facing enforced powerdown, eg crumbling, maybe with the exception of those most primitive states which have built next to nothing, so nothing to crumble is there.
Problem with West is that it crumbles in particularly ugly way - by descent to barbarism seen as much in US as in Europe.

I often ask myself why it goes that way, what white people are doing wrong?
Is there anything these Japs are doing better than we do in our countries, with the exception that there are not many migrants there?

My conclusion is that it is explicitly WHITE MAN who have failed in his duties.
He has failed by abandoning his ethics, his values, his resolve, his quest for leadership and ability to organize.
He lost his will to face adversaries and solve problems to his satisfaction.
Average WHITE MAN became fat, useless, lazy and stupid.
He had at his disposal everything needed to navigate through this bottleneck but he wasted it.

He gave away:
1. his money to Jews,
2. his power and authority to feminists,
3. his cities to Mexicans and Muslims
4. his ass to gays.
That is what he has done and now there are consequences to face.

It does not make any difference that few % retained integrity. Not enough to have a smooth ride for society as a whole.

I agree there are many reasons for the West crumbling. But, "da Joos" are not helping the situation.

And, when I mean "da Joos", that means those who are constantly using "da Holocost" and screaming "anti-semitism" whenever they don't get their way.

I don't think Chinese or Japanese or Africans do any of that. Only a very specific group engages in that perpetual victimhood and it irritates me to no end.

These special groups are working according to following logic:

- Rabbi tell me please what to do. 5 millions of our kind got murdered in a horrible way. What shall we do?
- We can make a lot of money out of that.
- How?
- We will extort it from entire world and there are few millions of idiots in America who believe that we are Gods, so they will help.

[theluckycountry]

The Romans destroyed a lot in there day but I was watching the destruction of Jerusalem AD70 the other night and it was total annihilation. Everyone inside the city walls, a million by some estimates, since it was the great feast of the passover, were either killed or sold into slavery. The Jews brought it on themselves by rebelling against the Romans, the jews have always been an arrogant people, always thinking they are *special*

The current leadership of the ukraine have a similar mindset it seems. They believe they can win, which is ludicrous in my opinion. The French may have been inept and a bit too willing to surrender but at the end of the day their cities were not turned into rubble, their people not slaughtered en-mass. There is a certain wisdom in their actions. I only bring this up because it's another way cities can die. From a person living far from a large city it would also be a palatable solution to the hoards of refugees that will leave them when they become unsustainable.

Trying to predict what will happen when cities die (lack of resources) is like trying to predict antarctic ice-sheet collapses, hopeless. After the ancient cities fell there were no historians around recording where the people went and what they did when they got there, we are blind to these dark-ages. This thread has been discussing the signs and markers of the collapse of cities but one day we may have to live through such events. What then? Where do the strong young city dwellers go, the ones that escape. And what happens in the regions where they migrate? I imagine it will be something similar to what we are seeing in Western Europe but a lot more violent.

[EnergyUnlimited]

The Jews brought it on themselves by rebelling against the Romans, the jews have always been an arrogant people, always thinking they are *special*

That is related to this Yahweh privileging them nonsense. Though this is a very powerful concept keeping a tribe together, I must admit.
Brings loads of dangers but also benefits.

Trying to predict what will happen when cities die (lack of resources) is like trying to predict antarctic ice-sheet collapses, hopeless.

What I find interesting that a hard crash scenario was strongly discredited on this site in the past but now in face of observed new developments around a world it have gained traction again.
There might be something in it.

This thread has been discussing the signs and markers of the collapse of cities but one day we may have to live through such events. What then? Where do the strong young city dwellers go, the ones that escape. And what happens in the regions where they migrate? I imagine it will be something similar to what we are seeing in Western Europe but a lot more violent.

I am in mid 50-thies so I don't really care about what then.
Not a lot of mileage left in any case, though I still enjoy a good health. Have a good life but if it is to end I won't fret about.

In such scenario strong young city dwellers will in all probabilities go to countryside to boot, loot and rape.
That assuming lack of sufficient government resources and adequate self defense structures.
Regions where these peoples migrate will be devastated and that's about it.
Zombie Apocalypse.

What I have promised myself is that I will not die fighting something what you would call "rich man's war".

[theluckycountry]

What I find interesting that a hard crash scenario was strongly discredited on this site in the past but now in face of observed new developments around a world it have gained traction again.
There might be something in it.

There was a good book put out around 2000 called "The Phoenix Principle
and the coming dark age" by Marc Widdowson. Quite a lengthy tome but I managed to wade through most of it. He researched city state civilizations back to the dawn of time and one finding, aside from an average 400 year lifecycle, was that they eventually entered a decline, 100 years or so, then a rapid collapse taking about 10 years. One salient aspect of the collapse was that the people of the empire just gave up on the lifestyle, lost interest in the empire, ceased to work.

The decline encompasses many aspects, social, financial, spiritual even. Today most people in the western world decry religion, they want nothing to do with it, but strong belief and adherence to the principals of a deity was always a hallmark of a strong civilization. England was very ardently protestant when it came into it's powerful stage, the USA too, very religious. Whether individual people believed in the doctrines or not is irrelevant, it was a unifying force in the empires, it helped hold them together. So today it's in the garbage bin, but so is honest business practices, the appropriate punishment of criminals, the family unit, the national money systems. They have all gone down together and the process has been underway for many many decades. I cold see Widdowson's collapse occurring at any time. They don't ring a bell, it just happens.

I am in mid 50-thies so I don't really care about what then.
Not a lot of mileage left in any case, though I still enjoy a good health. Have a good life but if it is to end I won't fret about.

Hmmm. The collapse of the USSR didn't result in the collapse of Russia, but if you were our age or older living through it wasn't a pleasant experience. I'm over 60 and starting from scratch isn't a scenario I would relish. I think it pays to have a plan B and plan C in these times.

Marc Widdowson's book
https://neilrieck.net/misc/pdf/humanity ... rk_age.pdf

The approach to a dark age is paradoxically a
time when things seem to be getting better in many
respects. Political authorities seem less oppressive.
Economic activity is more elaborate than ever.
Social attitudes become more enlightened. On the
surface, everything can appear to be excellent.
Behind the scenes, though, the contradictions are
growing and they threaten all this wondrous
achievement. It is not when you think you have a
problem that you actually have one – for having
identified it you can do something about it. The
real worry is when things seem to be going
swimmingly well. Let those who say
‘preposterous!’ and ‘how pessimistic!’ reflect on
that.
MARC WIDDOWSON
Bedford, 2001