Newfie wrote:Lucky,
For starters, reported by ISW but from RUSSIAN STATE sources.
“ The Russian state-owned Public Opinion Research Center (VCIOM) found that Russians are increasingly less trusting of Russian state TV and are turning to social media and the internet for news.”
However it is clear and obvious Russian is suffering under Putin. That Russia has not collapsed yet is not a sign of victory.
Newfie wrote:
Russia, Putin, has suffered a tremendous self inflicted wound.
Why you can not see that I do not understand.
ralfy wrote:Vietnam and other countries have been playing both sides for decades.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/worl ... d-war.html
The one that created incredible damage to itself is the U.S. It kept claiming that it stands for freedom and democracy. Instead ...both parties using the military industrial complex and organizations like the IMF and the WB to manipulate or destabilize weaker countries
Now, it's unable to stop an emerging multipolar world. One of the recipients of that manipulation is Ukraine.
ralfy wrote:the .... U.S. has had a long history of doing ... color revolutions
ralfy wrote:...and most Americans and citizens of NATO countries don't want to serve and don't want to fight, with two-thirds of Americans not even able to do something as simple as identify Ukraine on a map)...
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/12/29 ... o-forever/Nobody in their right mind wants to be obliged to send their kid off to war in Eastern Europe if Romania and Moldova start bombing each other. Yet NATO membership requires just that.
And courtesy of the best congress money can buy, now power to withdraw from NATO has been removed from the U.S. president and enshrined in the well-greased palms of our legislators. More specifically, on December 16 congress approved a bill barring the president from unilaterally exiting NATO without legislative approval. This is a disaster. It’s aimed at Trump and one of the few decent things he might do if elected president, namely ditch that trouble-making albatross, NATO. Naturally president Joe Biden did not delay signing the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes this new NATO provision; so we’re stuck with it.
You doubt this is bad news?
Just look at NATO’s track record: bombing Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya and currently the abattoir NATO has made of Ukraine – or rather the disaster caused by NATO’s promise to absorb Ukraine. In Afghanistan, NATO performed with its usual, incomparable mediocrity, so the U.S. withdrew, convinced its puppet regime could hold off the Taliban for months. After all, the U.S. and NATO had bombed the country and the Taliban to smithereens – right? Well, it turned out our puppet couldn’t restrain the Taliban long enough for retreating U.S. jets to lift off from the tarmac. And what was NATO doing in Afghanistan for 20 years anyway? Don’t ask any of our military geniuses like David Petraeus, who kept telling us victory was just around the corner, and who even argued in the Atlantic, August 8 2022, that “we could have won.” Ha!
As for NATO’s 2011 military intervention in Libya, that was a debacle that transformed Africa’s most prosperous nation into a stone-age pit with open-air slave markets. The NATO 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia wasn’t much better, in that it should never have happened and arguably the only reason it did was so then President Bill “NATO Uber Alles” Clinton could distract the public from the lurid details of a sex scandal and impeachment...
Newfie wrote:Most Russians support the war, until they don’t. Then what recourse do they have? Vote Putin out? Putin has made a enemies throughout Russia, there are likely many who like to see him fall. There are aggrieved parties surrounding Russia. He keeps stripping his border regions of military capability to fight in Crimea. At some point some one will open a new front, internally or on a border, and he will not he able to respond. Putin likes to pretend he has all the time in the world for a protracted Ukraine campaign, but I think there are some hard limits to that.
careinke wrote:
Maybe the Russians are KLINGONs.
Peace
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