kublikhan wrote:Oh is it time for psychoanalysis? Ok I'll bite. Lucky, you have decided long ago EVs are nothing but Segways and there are no facts that will convince you otherwise. I have seen you post information time and time again that is factually incorrect. You are so convinced you are correct you dismiss everything that runs contrary to your opinion out of hand. You pride yourself on the fact you don't have a TV and think yourself immune to the 'brainwashing' that 'little people' with a TV are subjected to. But then you spend all of your time reading and posting from echo chambers that echo back what you already 'know' to be the truth.theluckycountry wrote:Kub, drawing anecdotal parallels to 100 year old systems that were underwritten by ever falling oil prices, oceans of free energy basically, just isn't going to cut it. Today everyone knows that EV aren't underwritten by ever cheaper prices going forward. It's the opposite in fact, they are underwritten by ever higher cost scarcer oil. Can't you see that?
I have been reading your posts and waiting for you to point to something positive that would actually save the EV revolution you are so enamored with. But all you come up with is vague promises by government that they are going to "do" something, or outlandish claims by battery manufacturers that they have cracked the secret code. Meanwhile more and more dark truths about the EV come to light, nails in their coffins as I allude.
You are in damage control all the time kub, like the captain of a mortally wounded war ship, directing the fire control teams as the ship lists further and further to port. At some point you're going to have to give the command, "Abandon ship, abandon ship" I only hope you have the courage and conviction to remain on deck and do just that. My experience of internet threads or forums dedicated to bubbles though tell another story. The accounts of the chief fanboys just go silent as they slip over the side and escape back to reality.
And all I do is come up with vague government promises? What a joke. I dismantled the BS you post with actual facts. Shall I list a couple of them?
1. Lucky: EVs have peaked.
Factual Rebuttal: EV sales continue to break records and so have not in fact peaked.
2. Lucky: LiFePO4s will never see mass usage.
Factual Rebuttal: LiFePO4s are already in mass usage.
3. Lucky: Sodium Ion batteries are not in production.
Factual Rebuttal: Sodium Ion batteries are already in production.
4. Lucky: Norwegian EV sales are going down, look at this graph from January sales as proof!
Factual Rebuttal: The cold winter months of January-March are the months that sales of all vehicle types tend to go down. However Norwegian EV sales in January were still higher than a year ago period. And sales came up in the following months just like they always have.
5. Lucky: EVs are not getting better, it's all just outlandish claims and BS from the government.
Factual Rebuttal:
*The average range of electric cars has more than doubled over the last decade
* "The average price of battery packs for cars dropped from $1,200 per kWh in 2010 to just $132 in 2021.
* USA: Average price of a new electric car has fallen by $15,000 in the past year
I could go on but I'll stop here. The point is you are posting bogus information, opinions, and doom projections and presenting it as facts. But it is all false. Hell, you can't even articulate my own opinion on EVs. Sure I correct the BS you post on EVs. But time and time again I have also stated my own issues I have with EVs. However since I do not swallow the BS you post you put me in the category of a vapid fanboy. And you are sitting around waiting for me to post on EVs? Go out and enjoy the sunshine and stop worrying about EVs all the time, seriously.
The world is not like the U.S., where electricity supply has to go up dramatically to meet more usage, or like Norway, where EVs are used as secondary vehicles by a country with a lot of electricity and still sells fossil fuels to pay for its costs to a world that needs a lot of fossil fuels to manufacture EVs and renewable energy components.
OTOH, the world is like both, where much of renewable energy promoted to create sustainable societies are made by mining, manufacturing, and shipping for-profit corporations that need and want the opposite of sustainability.
In addition, much of the world is industrializing and most live on only a few dollars a day. They include many working for low wages and whose governments skirt environmental regulations in order to make sure that those renewable energy components and EVs are cheap.