[theluckycountry]

Yea right, those nonviolent Sunnis include Bin Laden, Sadam Hussain

Both CIA funded stooges lol. Sadam was given sanction to invade Kuwait, he was setup so the US could go in and setup a police station to control midde east oil. But like most of their ventures it failed and left the US peoples in more debt. I suppose you believe the official story about 9/11 lol. Oh dead oh Dear.

[yellowcanoe]

Yea right, those nonviolent Sunnis include Bin Laden, Sadam Hussain

Both CIA funded stooges lol. Sadam was given sanction to invade Kuwait, he was setup so the US could go in and setup a police station to control midde east oil. But like most of their ventures it failed and left the US peoples in more debt. I suppose you believe the official story about 9/11 lol. Oh dead oh Dear.

The idea that the US approved of Saddam invading Kuwait is nonsense. https://history.state.gov/milestones/19 ... astructure.

Saddam was brutal in his treatment of anyone who disagreed with him. Nobody in his inner circle was going to tell him that invading Kuwait was a bad idea.

[theluckycountry]

The idea that the US approved of Saddam invading Kuwait is nonsense. https://history.state.gov/milestones/19 ... astructure.

Saddam was brutal in his treatment of anyone who disagreed with him. Nobody in his inner circle was going to tell him that invading Kuwait was a bad idea.

You want to quote a US government document on why they went to war? You're funny YC. Saddam was a US creation, their creature and he knew it. Before he invaded he asked the US Diplomatic core and was told that was a local issue and none of their business so he proceeded.

In a now famous interview with the Iraqi leader, U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie told Saddam, ‘[W]e have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.’ The U.S. State Department had earlier told Saddam that Washington had ‘no special defense or security commitments to Kuwait.’ The United States may not have intended to give Iraq a green light, but that is effectively what it did.”

Notice that we offered no opinion on whether Glaspie was free-lancing, mis-reading Saddam, or simply following orders from Washington. Our article was focused on the issue of whether Saddam was deterrable, and the key issue that concerned us about the Glaspie meeting was whether she had conveyed a clear deterrent threat to Saddam, or whether she might have unintentionally given him reason to think he could go ahead and absorb Kuwait without facing a strong military response from the United States.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2011/01/09/wi ... m-hussein/

CONFRONTATION IN THE GULF; U.S. Gave Iraq Little Reason Not to Mount Kuwait Assault

In the two weeks before Iraq's seizure of Kuwait, the Bush Administration on the advice of Arab leaders gave President Saddam Hussein little reason to fear a forceful American response if his troops invaded the country.

The Administration's message to Baghdad, articulated in public statements in Washington by senior policy makers and delivered directly to Mr. Hussein by the United States Ambassador, April C. Glaspie, was this: The United States was concerned about Iraq's military buildup on its border with Kuwait, but did not intend to take sides in what it perceived as a no-win border dispute between Arab neighbors.

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/23/worl ... sault.html

Yes he was an evil dictator, but those are just the type of people the U.S. like to do business with. They can exploit the nation and not worry about popular uprisings. When the policy changes though they go in Guns blazing. That was Gulf War II

https://archive.globalpolicy.org/nation ... /03oil.htm
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... aq.theeuro

Look at the ukraine today, we all pretty much know it was a US proxy war, the US is losing it's control on world affairs and is trying desperately to hang onto it. It's already lost it's domination of world oil, that was the first shoe to drop.

[Newfie]

Yea right, those nonviolent Sunnis include Bin Laden, Sadam Hussain

Both CIA funded stooges lol. Sadam was given sanction to invade Kuwait, he was setup so the US could go in and setup a police station to control midde east oil. But like most of their ventures it failed and left the US peoples in more debt. I suppose you believe the official story about 9/11 lol. Oh dead oh Dear.

The idea that the US approved of Saddam invading Kuwait is nonsense. https://history.state.gov/milestones/19 ... astructure.

Saddam was brutal in his treatment of anyone who disagreed with him. Nobody in his inner circle was going to tell him that invading Kuwait was a bad idea.

Thanks for the link.

[yellowcanoe]

The idea that the US approved of Saddam invading Kuwait is nonsense. https://history.state.gov/milestones/19 ... astructure.

Saddam was brutal in his treatment of anyone who disagreed with him. Nobody in his inner circle was going to tell him that invading Kuwait was a bad idea.

You want to quote a US government document on why they went to war? You're funny YC. Saddam was a US creation, their creature and he knew it. Before he invaded he asked the US Diplomatic core and was told that was a local issue and none of their business so he proceeded.

The US had nothing to do with Saddam coming to power. He was useful to the US when he invaded Iran. His invasion of Kuwait made him a problem to the US.

Another example of an authoritarian leader who thought he was immune from action by the US is Manuel Noriega. He had been seen as an ally of the US earlier in his career but after becoming the military leader of Panama the US was not happy to see him involved in smuggling drugs to the US and threatening the security of the Panama canal zone. Of course no one in his inner circle could advise him that the Americans were getting pretty annoyed with him. The result was the invasion of Panama and Noriega was taken to the US to face drug smuggling charges. One of the more successful invasions by the US as it restored democracy to Panama which is still in place today. To help prevent the country from being taken over by the military again, Panama has opted NOT to have a traditional military.

[theluckycountry]

The US had nothing to do with Saddam coming to power. He was useful to the US when he invaded Iran. His invasion of Kuwait made him a problem to the US.

Why do you insist on hiding behind a cloak of righteousness?

US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/sto ... Id=4859238

"The U.S. involvement in the coup against Kassem [General Abdel Karim Kassem] in Iraq in 1963 was substantial. There is evidence that CIA agents were in touch with army officials who were involved in the coup.

There is evidence that they [CIA] supplied the conspirators with lists of people who had to be eliminated immediately in order to ensure success. The relationship between the Americans and the Ba'ath Party at that moment in time was very close indeed. And that continued for some time after the coup.

https://usiraq.procon.org/view.answers. ... nID=000887

Dirty hands and no one wants to admit it. Instead the people insist "We are bringing democracy to..."

[theluckycountry]

I don't necessarily condemn the actions of the US peoples in their blood lust but I certainly don't want to engage in the nation-wide fairy tale they are decent people that care about other peoples. Collectively they behave more like a street-gang, riddled with vice, always looking for a soft target.

[theluckycountry]

Back on topic.
Now this is New.

NATO bears direct responsibility for Ukraine crisis — Chinese Foreign Ministry

https://tass.com/world/1781039

Ganging up at last

[jato0072]

That dovetails with this:

Blinken Says US Is Prepared to Sanction More China Firms Over Russia Source: Bloomberg

[theluckycountry]

Inevitable I suppose. It's the new cold war with the BRICS. Sanctions can be explained as as punitive measures against your local businesses, tariffs as a tax on the population as a whole.

[AgentR11]

Just a note; we send lots of cash in the form of wonder weapons... Ukraine blows up some random industrial targets inside Russia... Russia makes massive gains in Eastern Ukraine.

Complete waste of money. They need boots. With lively, NATO, human combatants in them. Lots of them. No matter how much money we waste in this fashion, the story will not change. It won't change until WE change what WE send.

Send what counts, or friggin negotiate a peace settlement with Russia.

[theluckycountry]

It won't change until WE change what WE send.

As vice president, Cheney was active and used his influence to help shape the administration’s energy policy and foreign policy in the Middle East. He played a central, controversial role in conveying intelligence reports that Saddam Hussein of Iraq had developed weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in violation of resolutions passed by the United Nations—reports used by the Bush administration to initiate the Iraq War. However, Iraq had no WMDs that could be found.

Following the collapse of Saddam’s regime, Cheney’s former company, Halliburton, secured lucrative reconstruction contracts from the U.S. government, raising the spectre of favouritism and possible wrongdoing—allegations that damaged Cheney’s public reputation.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Dick-Cheney.
...He was also a member of the board of advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) before becoming vice president.

So, WE send in troops at taxpayer expense, WE sacrifice the lives of our children, and Corporations, not WE, make a fortune. Yes that's war boys and girls. There are no citizens, no heroic patriots. Just tax donkeys and cannon fodder.

[theluckycountry]

The Bush–Cheney ticket won the 2000 presidential election with 271 electoral votes but with only 47.9% of the popular vote, less than their opposition ticket, Gore–Lieberman, which received 48.3%.

Near the same odds with the Trump election. Odd isn't it, that the nation is neatly divided almost 50:50? If you look at the media coverage of elections though you see an inordinate push in one direction or another, it's the media that swings the elections, and no, it's Not because they are Leftists, that's another lie. Those in control of the process actively work to keep the nation divided by politics, race, gender, birth control, immigration issues. It's the age old "Divide and Conquer" method.

This next election though is clearly a republican win unless Trump is jailed, but what is republican? Pro war, pro pharma, pro corporate, just like the other party. Two sides of the same coin and ultimately those in power couldn't care less which side wins.

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws"

Thomas Jefferson

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

I'd say we're well on the way.

[theluckycountry]

What’s Really Behind Poland’s Interest In Deporting Ukrainian Draft-Dodgers?

No amount of draft refugee meat that Poland or whoever else throws into the grinder will change the conflict’s military-strategic dynamics.

Polish Defense Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz expressed support in an interview for Ukraine’s latest conscription-related policy of refusing consular services for draft-aged men aged 18-60. The form of assistance that Warsaw provides Kiev in returning these draft-dodgers depends on the regime, but he implied that his country might hunt down and deport them. This reading is predicated on him calling their service a “civic duty” and saying that Poles are “outraged” seeing these men hanging out in cafes.

https://korybko.substack.com/p/whats-re ... s-interest

I would too I suppose. No doubt they voted for the comedian, so time to go home and pay the piper.
I wonder what EnergyUnlimited's view is on the matter.

[Plantagenet]

Ukraine targets more refineries inside Russia

oil-refinery-in-russia-region-damaged-in-ukraine-drone-attack-a

It seems strange to me that Ukraine continues to attack Russian oil refineries in spite of the Biden administration telling them not to attack Russia's oil infrastructure inside Russia even after the Biden people told them not to do it.......If wonder if perhaps the public statements from the Biden administration claiming they don't support attacking Russia aren't true, and secretly the USA is egging Ukraine on its attacks on Russia.



Cheers!

[ralfy]

"Frontline Ukrainians Fear New Aid From U.S. Will Be a Disaster"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/frontline ... a-disaster

Much of the world is celebrating fresh U.S. aid, but some of the people in the areas where it matters most think the war will be prolonged and the wrong people will benefit.

[jato0072]

the Biden administration claiming they don't support attacking Russia aren't true, and secretly the USA is egging Ukraine on its attacks on Russia.

Of course this is correct. Same with Israel. These are proxy wars. The USA is calling the shots. All of the parties are being careful as to not cross the TOTAL WAR tripwire. So far they have been successful.

The USA "leadership" says don't do this or that, but then provides billions of dollars and butt loads of weapons! Always, always, always in life; Don't believe what they say, watch what they do. The axiom applies to governments, organizations and individuals.

[Plantagenet]

The USA "leadership" says don't do this or that, but then provides billions of dollars and butt loads of weapons! Always, always, always in life; Don't believe what they say, watch what they do. The axiom applies to governments, organizations and individuals.

YES! That's exactly my point

The Ukrainians and the Israelis seem to understand that they can safely ignore whatever Joe Biden and his administration say in public, and the billions in military aid will nonetheless keep flowing to them


Bad Ukraine! Bad israel! (PSSST! Good work you guys! ....I put an extra big check for you in the mail!)

Cheers!

[ralfy]

"Zelensky Unmasked," Part 3

https://twitter.com/Truth_InMedia/statu ... 8228757821

[jato0072]

Emmanuel Macron has said he would be prepared to send troops to Ukraine if Vladimir Putin's forces break through the front lines - further raising the risk of NATO forces clashing with Russia's armies.

Macron vows to send TROOPS to Ukraine if Putin's forces break through front lines and Zelensky asks for reinforcements - further raising the risk of NATO going head-to-head with Russia